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#294 of 321 Letter to Subaru
Oct 05, 2010 (12:49 pm)
Issue at hand.
Subaru has made an unsafe decision for the owners of the 2011 impreza.
Windshield and windshield / foot well defroster will only work with outside air.
Subaru therefore is telling me, if you want to see out of our car, the driver MUST in-hail the noxious fumes from the diesel truck in front.
How is this safe?
My 2008 Forester Limited will allow the windshield defroster to function on recirculate but not the Impreza?
Granted in a perfect world, fresh air is the most efficient way to clear a windshield, Wake up.... This is not a perfect world.
Let the consumer make the decision.
Liability is HUGE here.
Medical bills because a car manufacturer is forcing it's owners to inhale noxious exhaust especially in bad weather conditions OR Accident claims due to owners crashing their car because they could not see out.
I'm sure this is an over site.
Please tell me or my dealer how to resolve this silly issue.
#295 of 321 Re: Letter to Subaru [wickedv1]
Oct 05, 2010 (1:31 pm)
I could be wrong but I think that is how both my Toyotas and old ford was....I know it had to be on one setting or another anyway, either recycled or outside air....I'll have to check which on the Toyota.
#296 of 321 Re: Letter to Subaru [andrelaplume]
Oct 05, 2010 (2:13 pm)
Have spoken to a few friends and this does seem to be a norm of sorts, with one major exception. Most other manufacturers will allow the driver to re-activate the recirculate and retain the defrost action.
New body style Honda civic will turn off recirculate when defrost is activated, though it will allow recirculate to be reactivated if the driver so desires and continue the defrost action. This action is the same on 2006 thru 2008 Foresters, 2009 Foresters will let you do as you wish. Well at least mine does
Odd that all the vehicles in my memory past have allowed windshield defrost to work with recirculate on.
#297 of 321 Re: Letter to Subaru [wickedv1]
Oct 05, 2010 (10:38 pm)
meh. I think that your windshield will only defrost with outside air and subaru is making sure that people aren't trying to defrost with inside air and wondering why it's not working. Locking it is the only way. As or the toxic fumes, well, I think those fumes are getting into your car regardless. Your car is not air-tight. NOt sure what you're going to do about it other than maybe drive further back from the trucks. Best answer is for you to instead tell Subaru your desire for them to make a zero-emissions car like all the other automakers and then buy one and encourage others to do the same. Unless they come out with a hybrid or at least a diesel in the states, this will be my last Subie.
#298 of 321 Re: Letter to Subaru [wickedv1]
Oct 06, 2010 (9:25 am)
No Subaru I have owned (four spanning 14 years) has included this feature. Granted, it would seem to be nice on those occasions when there are unpleasant outside pollutants like diesels, cigarette smoke, poorly maintained wood stoves, etc.
If the defroster is actually needed, it is not going to work real well drawing the already-humid air from inside the vehicle.
#299 of 321 Re: Letter to Subaru [wickedv1]
Oct 06, 2010 (9:29 am)
If you smell the truck's exhaust, aren't you following too closely? Most trucks have a stack up high, how are you inhaling that exhaust?
#300 of 321 Re: Letter to Subaru [ateixeira]
Oct 06, 2010 (10:56 am)
Most trucks have a stack up high, how are you inhaling that exhaust?
That's correct for large tractors, but there are lots of local delivery diesel United Parcel trucks and others with bumper level outlets. And in heavy city bumper-to-bumper traffic, close is not avoidable.
And there are plenty of junker cars laying a smoke screen behind them. I have never seen one pulled over for polluting.
#301 of 321 Re: Letter to Subaru [saedave]
Oct 06, 2010 (11:33 am)
I drive a convertible (Miata), and even top open I don't really have that problem.
Then again, I'm always passing trucks, not behind them.
#302 of 321 Re: Letter to Subaru [xwesx]
Oct 07, 2010 (11:55 am)
Firstly, thank you for your input.
As my experience with Subaru is limited (two) I find it odd that my 2009 Forester allows me to utilize defrost with the vents closed but not on the 2011 impreza?
As for when the defroster is needed, turn on the AC, this will clear the fog.
Seems Subaru thought of this with the 2008 forester... note from a friend:
So I checked mine out - if I have it on recirc, then switch to defrost, it will set it back to outside air + AC. But I can switch it back to recirc if I want.
Apples to Oranges example:
New body style Honda civic will turn off recirculate when defrost is activated, though it will allow recirculate to be reactivated if the driver so desires and continue the defrost action.
My point is more, let me make the choice...... Do not force me to breath in cigarette smoke, exhaust fumes, other misc odders because a car company deems me to stupid to clear my own windshield.
Odd how Subaru's with climate control (i.e 2009 Limited forester) do not have this issue, yet (2011 Impreza premium) does..... Is this a $'s thing? Spend more, MUST be smarter?????
Frankly if I had purchased the Impreza first there is no way in hell I would have purchased the Forester.
Which is ashame as the 2009 forester is a fantastic vehicle.
#303 of 321 Re: Letter to Subaru [ateixeira]
Oct 07, 2010 (12:00 pm)
Thank you for your input.
I'm not sure where you live but I'm in wonderful Los Angeles. Try sitting on the 405 and not breathing in exhaust, cigarette, ect fumes.
I utilize the vents closed option the majority of the time. I'm not happy that the manufacturer has decided that I must breath toxic fumes to keep my windshield clear.
Close the vents, turn on the AC, problem solved.