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Hyundai Azera vs. Lincoln Zephyr

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#21 of 40
Re: Azera vs. Zephyr by tonycd
Jul 22, 2006 (7:54 pm)
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Replying to: ranger2001xlt (Jul 21, 2006 3:41 pm)

Hi. I don't own either of them, but I'll shoot my mouth off anyway.
 
I was very interested in the Zephyr when it first came out, partly because I simply have a jones for real wood, and the Zephyr has plenty of it. Unfortunately, from there on it's all downhill.
 
Basically, the Zephyr is a glorified Ford Fusion, which means it's a restyled Mazda6 with more rear seat room. A couple things turned me off about it pretty quickly:
 
•Most of all, build quality. The American Mazda6 isn't as reliable as the Japanese-built Mazda3. This was also true of their predecessor cars, the American-built Mazda 626 vs. the Japanese Mazda Protege. I believe Hyundai, serious about entering the big time, has really thrown an enormous effort into giving the Azera excellent build quality and premium materials, including where they don't show. Ford products, on the other hand, have reliability records in recent years that reflect the desperate financial trouble they're in and the pushback they're getting from the suppliers they're squeezing.
 
•In the long run, I think the Zephyr's resale will be abysmal, and the Azera's less bad than people think. Not that I care, because I keep my cars anyway -- which, given the American makers' poor treatment of component suppliers, is a double minus for the Zephyr.
 
•Despite the wood, the Zephyr's interior just doesn't come off as high-end. The dash has a lot of square shapes that look circa 1985 to my eyes. Conversely, despite its obviously fake wood, the Azera comes off as modern and premium in every other detail, like the classy fabric headliner, the neon gauges and the powered rear sunshade.
 
•No electronic stability control on the Zephyr, if I recall correctly -- a big safety item, bigger in my opinion than some of those much-ballyhooed airbags.
 
In the end, the Fords just don't even get into the semifinals for me. This isn't Car and Driver doing a comparison test. I'd have to OWN the winner, using MY money. No contest. If seeking alternatives, I'd look at the Accord V6 or Acura TL first. If you're into something softer and plusher than those, well, nothing within $5000 comes close to the Azera.
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Re: Considering an Azera [ranger2001xlt] by me_and_g35
Jul 23, 2006 (3:09 pm)
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Replying to: ranger2001xlt (Jul 21, 2006 3:41 pm)

I don't think there is really no comparison between Azera and Zephyr. Well equipped large sedan vs. not so sporty enry-lux med sedan. I would recommend Infiniti G35 instead of Zephyr. With Zephyr, you could potentially encounter a residual issue because its 2007 moodel will be called MKZ instead of Zephyr. Going back to Azera, only holding you back is price, I can sign you up for Hyundai Associate Purchase Program (invoice + $100 at purchase - available rebates - $100 mail-in rebate with survey completed). If you are interested send your name and address to maximusminimumhotmail.com
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Re: Considering an Azera [ranger2001xlt] by rj123456
Jul 23, 2006 (10:55 pm)
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Replying to: ranger2001xlt (Jul 21, 2006 3:41 pm)

Ended up with the Zephyr because the ride is much better, and liked the styling better, and the price was great. Feature wise it's a wash - more airbags & cooled seats vs. stability control and the rear sunshade. Wait for the '07 MKZ for the new warranty.
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Re: Considering an Azera [averigejoe] by ranger2001xlt
Jul 30, 2006 (5:09 am)
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Replying to: averigejoe (Jul 22, 2006 1:09 pm)

Azera:

Exterior

Length: 192.7 in. Width: 72.8 in.
Height: 58.7 in. Wheel Base: 109.4 in.
Curb Weight: 3629 lbs.
Interior
Front Head Room: 40.2 in. Front Hip Room: 55.5 in.
Front Shoulder Room: 57.9 in. Rear Head Room: 38.2 in.
Rear Shoulder Room: 57.1 in. Rear Hip Room: 55.1 in.
Front Leg Room: 43.7 in. Rear Leg Room: 38.2 in.
Luggage Capacity: 16.6 cu. ft. Maximum Seating: 5
 
Zephyr:
 
Exterior
Length: 190.5 in. Width: 72.2 in.
Height: 55.9 in. Wheel Base: 107.4 in.
Curb Weight: 3406 lbs.
Interior
Front Head Room: 38.7 in. Front Hip Room: 54.1 in.
Front Shoulder Room: 56.9 in. Rear Head Room: 37.8 in.
Rear Shoulder Room: 55.6 in. Rear Hip Room: 53.6 in.
Front Leg Room: 42.3 in. Rear Leg Room: 37 in.
Luggage Capacity: 15.8 cu. ft. Maximum Seating: 5
 
Yes,
It is true that the Azera is slightly larger than the Zephyr. Not Towncar size larger, but it is bigger. I think the comparison is still valid. Especially since the MXZ will get a comparable motor in 2007.
 
The Azera topped out price for 06 is around 30,000 where the Zephyrs is around 33,000. I even read somewhere that the MKZ price for 07 will go up around $1000 or so.
 
That is a shame as it is making it harder to compare the two pricewise.
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Re: Azera vs. Zephyr [tonycd] by garandman
Aug 16, 2006 (4:58 pm)
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Replying to: tonycd (Jul 22, 2006 7:54 pm)

Hi. I don't own either of them, but I'll shoot my mouth off anyway.
  
I was very interested in the Zephyr when it first came out, partly because I simply have a jones for real wood, and the Zephyr has plenty of it. Unfortunately, from there on it's all downhill.

So, did you buy some competing mid-sized sedan, then?
#26 of 40
Re: Considering an Azera [ranger2001xlt] by joe97
Aug 17, 2006 (3:56 pm)
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Replying to: ranger2001xlt (Jul 30, 2006 5:09 am)

I will take the Azera over Zephyr. Here is why:
 
Less expensive but more value, features, equipment for the Azera. Comparably equipped, Zephyr is about $3-$5K more expensive than the Azera (Zephyr starts just under 30K, with the amount of money, you can easily get a loaded Azera and cash to spare). That 3.8L V6 (268hp) engine in the Azera sounds great, yet the interior cabin is so quite, even full-throttle (and quiter than the Avalon).
 
Side note: the back of the Zephyr gives me nightmare everytime looking at it...
#27 of 40
Re: Considering an Azera [rj123456] by carolinabob
Feb 27, 2008 (7:23 am)
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Replying to: rj123456 (Jul 23, 2006 10:55 pm)

I purchased a 2007 Azera Limited after comparing to Lexus ES, Infiniti G35, Avalon and Acura TL. Also looked at the Cadillac CTS and Lincoln MKZ.
   Went with Azera. Better equiped for a whole lot less money, better ride than all except marginally the Avalon and ES (same car really). Much better warranty than all the others.
   Professional Reviews were much better than for any GM or FOMOCO car and equal to or almost to others.
   I am interested in seeing what they do with the MKS, since the Azera is really between the MKZ and MKS. The MKZ is a Ford Fusion!
#28 of 40
Re: Considering an Azera [carolinabob] by drdonrs
Feb 27, 2008 (2:51 pm)
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Replying to: carolinabob (Feb 27, 2008 7:23 am)

Bob,
I did the same "due diligence" when I purchased my 06 Azzy. I actually had been leasing Acura TL's and first bought my 06 Sonata LX6 2 years ago. It is a low mileage car(I only have 8,000 miles) and has been absolutely trouble free. When 2nd TL (03) came off lease I bought the Azera for my wife in Aug. 06 and have 13,500 trouble free miles with the exception of a chipped veneer on steering wheel(replaced under warranty) and new front shocks. My service department is the best and the car is everything we could ask for. Never sorry, for a minute, to have switched to the "flying H".
Don
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Re: Considering an Azera [drdonrs] by oskidunker1
Feb 28, 2008 (10:55 am)
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Replying to: drdonrs (Feb 27, 2008 2:51 pm)

I noticed a chipped veneer on my steering wheel about a month after I bought my 07. Dealer, who has been very nice, told me that is not covered under the warranty and I would have to pay to fix it. Said I must have chipped it with a key.
 
How did you get this done and how did your chip occur?
 
Thanks
#30 of 40
Re: Considering an Azera [oskidunker1] by cobrazera
Feb 29, 2008 (3:29 am)
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Replying to: oskidunker1 (Feb 28, 2008 10:55 am)

Our steering wheel also has a couple chips which were undoubtably caused by a key, a ring, or whatever. The fact is, though, that such things occur as a matter of course - normal wear and tear. If the wheel veneer were not so d**n cheap the problem wouldn't be there.

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