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Re: SOME FURTHER THOUGHTS ABOUT OIL CHANGES [bremertong] by imidazol97
Jun 07, 2006 (3:51 am)
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Replying to: bremertong (Jun 06, 2006 7:39 pm)

Bremertong
The warmed garage also helps on the contaminants left in the oil in cold weather during starting warmups. Our cars are in garage at minimum 40 deg. F. in winter. Usually 50. If your car is treated that way and not started in cold weather with a cold motor regularly (at work to come home) and your summers are rarely above 65, you can make the extra miles and change twice a year very safely. You're the closest to the normal description for ideal service intervals I've read.
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Re: SOME FURTHER THOUGHTS ABOUT OIL CHANGES [imidazol97] by bremertong
Jun 07, 2006 (8:11 pm)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Jun 07, 2006 3:51 am)

Thanks very much for your reply. Will try the plan I outlined in earlier posts. Needless to say it was a little
frustrating to have the coolant issue come up today, guess I have been lucky in that in the five years of ownership of two Devilles this is the first time a check anything message has come on.
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CHECK COOLANT LEVEL MESSAGE ?? by bremertong
Jun 07, 2006 (8:04 pm)
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As I was leaving home today, about one mile out, the check engine coolant message flashed on the message center. I drove about five miles to my first destination and than stopped at a local service station and asked them to check.
They said was just about full. I have owned the car for two years and this is the first time this has happened. Plan to wait and see if it happens again. Have others had this message when the coolant level was full? If it happens again I will need to have Cadillac dealership check. Could it be a faulty module or some such thing?
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Re: CHECK COOLANT LEVEL MESSAGE ?? [bremertong] by sls002
Jun 08, 2006 (5:35 am)
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Replying to: bremertong (Jun 07, 2006 8:04 pm)

My suggestion is that you have your dealer check to see if your water pump is starting to leak. If it is leaking then perhaps there will be some signs of this where you park overnight.
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Re: CHECK COOLANT LEVEL MESSAGE ?? [sls002] by bremertong
Jun 08, 2006 (9:09 pm)
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Replying to: sls002 (Jun 08, 2006 5:35 am)

Thanks for your reply. I went out and looked just now, and all looked dry under the car. I have an oil pan under the car with white paper towels lining it to monitor any further oil leaks from oil filter adapter gasket, now repaired.
There is sometimes water on the tray but have assumed it is condensation from the air conditioning system, it is off to the the side at about where the driver seat is. If the water pump is leaking would water have color to it? if so what color should I look for? Would there be leaking even if the car had not been out for a day? Is there a particular location under the car that a water pump leak
would appear on the garage floor or tray (2004 Deville)?
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Re: CHECK COOLANT LEVEL MESSAGE ?? [bremertong] by sls002
Jun 09, 2006 (5:25 am)
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Replying to: bremertong (Jun 08, 2006 9:09 pm)

The water pump is on the drivers side of the engine, on the front bank of cylinders. There is a belt that turns it using the camshaft as a power source.
 
If you still have the right coolant, it should be the orange stuff. Your dealer can do a pressure test, which will take some time, to see if the cooling system is leaking. The water pump leakage can be intermittent till it fails and the engine overheats.
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Re: CHECK COOLANT LEVEL MESSAGE ?? [sls002] by bremertong
Jun 09, 2006 (8:00 pm)
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Replying to: sls002 (Jun 09, 2006 5:25 am)

Had the car out today with several stops for errands and various speeds up to 60 MPH. No more check coolant messages. If the message should occur a second time I will
schedule a service department visit with a Cadillac dealership. Will probably go to the dealer 60 miles away in that I was more impressed with them than the dealer closer to me. I am scheduled for an oil change in the next two to four weeks and if no further coolant message occurs I will wait and mention at oil change time. So far as I know the coolant is the original that came with the car.
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Re: CHECK COOLANT LEVEL MESSAGE ?? [bremertong] by sls002
Jun 10, 2006 (2:51 am)
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Replying to: bremertong (Jun 09, 2006 8:00 pm)

If no coolant was added and the low coolant message has stopped, then probably your coolant is just at the low point. Some coolant loss over time is normal. The coolant level in the reservoir should be checked when the engine is completely cold, after sitting overnight for example.
 
A leaky water pump should have left some evidence and since you are checking for an oil leak, I think that you should have seen something. If you are getting an oil change soon, you can have it checked out then. At this point I would not panic. They should put some coolant in though, to prevent additional messages. Then, you should monitor the coolant level for the next several weeks to be sure that coolant is not disappearing.
 
I recomment monitoring the coolant level on a regular basis anyway, when the oil level is checked, like weekly or at least 2 to 3 times monthly.
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BREM by geo9
Jun 10, 2006 (5:11 am)
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If your not seeing any leaks just chalk it up to
a "glitch" on these new gadget laden vehicles !
 
Sure you weren't out "driftracing" or doing a few
WOT passes cleaning the carbon outta that N-star
monster motor? I have to take out my moms DeVille
and beat on it once in a while to clean it out!
 
Most likely just the coolant in the res. just sloshing
about and triggering the low coolant message.
 
But before a wasted trip to the dealer keep a eye on
your coolant level.................
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Re: BREM [geo9] by bremertong
Jun 10, 2006 (8:42 pm)
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Replying to: geo9 (Jun 10, 2006 5:11 am)

I tried to remove the coolant cap after arriving home the day of the message, could not get the cap off for some reason. Was not to concerned in that it had been checked at a local service station. Are there any tricks to getting the cap off and of course back on? I looked at the owners manual before trying and seemed straight forward, it turned but didn't want to lift off so re tightened and will see if the message comes back. As I recall you also own a Deville of similar vintage, any tips on how to do this? Always enjoy and appreciate your posts.

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