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#139 of 169 Re: Jaguar S-Type: Transmission Problems [gr8cat] by oldcem May 17, 2009 (7:19 pm)
Replying to: gr8cat (May 17, 2009 6:12 am) gr8cat:   There's usually a bunch of the Jaguar Service CDs for sale on EBay - fairly cheap. I 've got one that covers the models through the 2003 model year - think I paid $20 for it a couple of years ago. Some of the internet Jag forums also list sites that'll let you download the info off the CDs free as well. I've been checking EBay periodically - looking for a CD that covers the 06 model year.   Regards: OldCEM
#140 of 169 Re: *Sigh [toy4xt] by research47 Jul 24, 2009 (7:12 pm)
Replying to: toy4xt (Dec 07, 2007 12:09 pm) Just brought a 2000 Jaguar, and I'm looking for a extanded warranty company Replies to this message: gr8cat (Jul 25, 2009 10:20 am)
#141 of 169 Re: *Sigh [research47] by gr8cat Jul 25, 2009 (10:20 am)
Replying to: research47 (Jul 24, 2009 7:12 pm) for our 2003 S Type-R we purchased a Lubrico Superior Protection Plan with the Power Equipment PLUS option.
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#145 of 169 Re: S Type Jaguar 3.0 Transmission Fault Light [soberguyjaguar] by amadauss Sep 15, 2009 (8:10 pm)
Replying to: soberguyjaguar (Apr 04, 2009 4:17 pm) I respect your response in reference to the luck of an extended warranty and the person posting in reference to being able to have the finances to repair the car. I disagree with you though about the disgruntled people posting on the site because they cannot afford to pay for the repair or bought an older model. I would guess most like myself, paid for a new transmission if needed and for the other repairs they had to have on the car. The disgruntled comes from buying a car you claim few others are as good as, for a good deal of money, and all think many years of use and the issues start to happen. I think most have done the right thing with the upkeep and scheduled maintenance as I have. So please do not blame the people posting about the various problems they are having but maybe the manufacturer who should take a little more responsibility for the car they manufacture. That old term where there is smoke there is fire rings true here because their seems to be a lot of disgruntled people posting. Replies to this message: soberguyjaguar (Sep 16, 2009 8:22 am) beeware (Sep 16, 2009 8:36 am) amadauss (Sep 17, 2009 11:06 am)
#146 of 169 Re: S Type Jaguar 3.0 Transmission Fault Light [amadauss] by soberguyjaguar Sep 16, 2009 (8:22 am)
Replying to: amadauss (Sep 15, 2009 8:10 pm) Well, I respect your respectfull disagreement. However, older high performance cars are less dependable than newer or low performance cars. I think we are dealing with expectations versus reality in this case. All cars break. The only questions are what and when. If you purchased a new trans. and then it went out again in only 20,000mi. then that is a bad thing. Definately. The trans is one of the weak points of this particular model. Every car has something. In this car it's the trans. I wish I knew more about your driving style and the circumstances because even this trans lasts longer than 20,k mi. It does however have a weakness when parked on a slope. This trans developes problems when placed in park on a slope which will leave the weight of the car resting on the transmission. There are others with this problem and it can be cured by setting the parking brake before placing the trans in park. Not doing so is commonly known as hanging the car on it's transmission. We see this a lot in Oklahoma because of all the sloped driveways (it rains Hard here). If that is not your problem then I would look at the other things that can cause transmission problems which dont have anything to do with the actual transmission. I did a car recently for a customer who had constant transmission failure lights and default to limp mode. He had a bad transmission relay ($15.00) and then we found a defective speed sensor. After that he came back furious 2 months later that his transmission was defaulting to limp mode again. He could fix it by pulling over and switching the engine off and waiting for 30 seconds then switching the engine back on again. He would then have full performance for about 2 days then his trans light would come back on and the car would go back in to limp mode.(3rd gear only) We pulled codes from his ECU and found that the engine was missfiring. We had reminded him repeatedly that it was past due for his new spark plugs but he had always declined because of the costs of fixing his transmission. He was always good about keeping his car clean and we found out that he had been washing his engine as well. The spark plug boots were 9 years old and the last time he washed his car he apparrently filled 2 of his spark plug shafts with water. When the engine computer sensed the missfires it put the car into the default/limp home mode.(3rd gear only). We refused to fix the car unless he caught up on his spark plug and boot and coil maintenance. That cost him almost $1000.00 dollars but it was overdue by 21,000 miles. This car has been into my shop 4 times for transmission complaints. Once, when it was 8 years old for a new transmission. 3 times after that for just plain age and wear that were triggering transmission defaults. He has been in twice since then for oil changes with no more complaints. The ZF transmission starting in 2003 will not go into default no matter what the engine is doing. It also lasts about twice as long as the one you have. However, it is not rebuildable. When it wears out, you just replace it with a new one. The parking pall in the ZF is as strong as American cars and the Parking brake now sets automatically. That doesnt, however, help you. The weaknesses endemic to your model are yours and you can learn to understand and live with them or sue. I wish i could get my hands on your car so that I could see if you really have another transmission problem. If you do, and if its not your fault, then I can certainly understand your angst. It is just so unlikely that you could put in a new transmission and then have that one go out so soon due to a factory defect that I wish I could check it more thoroughly. Its possible, definately possible, but unlikely.                 Soberguy
#147 of 169 Re: S Type Jaguar 3.0 Transmission Fault Light [amadauss] by beeware Sep 16, 2009 (8:36 am)
Replying to: amadauss (Sep 15, 2009 8:10 pm) Hey guys, forget about it. These jaguars are no good. Maybe the new ones are, but I wouldn't know. I had a 2000 3.0 s type for 2 months, the minute it started giving me tranny problems, I got rid of it. These cars are all ford. When I began to see so many people with the same complaint over and over again, It didn't take long for me to get rid of it. I had the money to fix it, but these cars are repeat offenders. Get youself a benz. I bought a 2000 c230 kompressor, no problems. Replies to this message: amadauss (Sep 17, 2009 11:06 am)
#148 of 169 Re: S Type Jaguar 3.0 Transmission Fault Light [beeware] by amadauss Sep 17, 2009 (11:06 am)
Replying to: beeware (Sep 16, 2009 8:36 am) I agree. I think in my case, the first trans was an issue because the heat shield under the car was directly below the lines that ran the tranny fluid to the radiator to cool it and back. The lines would start to leak but the leaked fluid would lay on top of the heat shield so you would not see it until to late. And it makes sense that the fluid would be more apt to leak when the car was moving so I was told it would blow off the shield onto the road so you would not know about it. I just think because of the various issues on this specific model and certain years, jag has shown (survival business tactics is my guess) an "admit no fault" attitude until it becomes very heated and almost legal, before they even consider doing something. My point with the previous response was more to state I don't think people are posting problems and complaining because they cannot pay for the repair but more "I only would expect to get what I paid for in the first place whether new or used" thought. Jaguar set the standards by demanding the price, which again people were willing to pay if they get what is promised or expected for the amount but it seems in many cases this is not the outcome.

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