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#110 of 236 Re: Jaguar S-Type: Transmission Problems [soberguyjaguar]
by beeware
Mar 20, 2009 (3:17 pm)
Ahhh Man.... i just bought a 2000 jag, s-type. i love the car and the style. i just started experiencing a misfire as i accelerate. My mechanic,whom i trust and have been doing business with for years now, has just advised me that i'm having transmission problems. I'm considering getting rid of it since reading all of these comments. Say it ain't so....!!! I was told that this car was not influenced by ford. Ford, if you're reading, YOU SUCK. I should have known better. I'm hoping for better luck, but i doubt it. The car still runs good.....so far.
#111 of 236 Re: Jaguar S-Type: Transmission Problems [beeware]
by isolde28465
Mar 20, 2009 (3:23 pm)
I feel your pain. I dumped the Jaguar this year and bought a pre-owned Lexus. Smartest thing I ever did. When I traded it in, it had 60K miles. Transmission was replaced, ignition replaced, a/c replaced, and the list goes on. Gorgeous car with amazing style, but it's a heartbreak.
#112 of 236 Re: Jaguar S-Type: Transmission Problems [blonddie66]
by amadauss
Mar 20, 2009 (5:25 pm)
Not so. After 2003 they became Fords. Before that it was British. A Ford Dealer would really not know what to do. Rather than a Jag dealer who will charge you an arm and a leg, try a local small mechanic that works on cars of this type. They seem to know what they are doing and do a great job. Bottom line, the transmission
is not the greatest and will go sooner than most but I think the cooling lines that take the fluid to the radiator and back have an issue with leaking which you never see because of a heat shield that catches it before it lands on your floor. And not being able to check this fluid with Jag suggesting not to change it until 100,000 miles is crazy because you never can find out if it’s losing fluid until it’s too late. And when they tell you to pay 2 grand to have the water pump system and hoses that need to be replaced because they will go, buy the hoses yourself and replace them. It’s not really the water pump system but hoses that leak after a time and not that hard to put in if you have a little ability or again find that mechanic.
Remember though, it’s not the prestige of owning a Jag that sets you apart, it’s the prestige of being able to pay for the service charges that really set you apart and stand out.
#113 of 236 Re: Jaguar S-Type: Transmission Problems [blonddie66]
by oldcem
Mar 20, 2009 (8:11 pm)
Sorry - Ford never built a 6 speed - rear drive Taurus, or, one with a 4.2 V8 under the hood either. The 3.0 6 cylinder engine the S-Type uses is derived from the Ford Duratec, but, uses different internals, a different induction system, is high compression, and makes more power. The X-Type shared about 20% of its parts with the European Ford Mondeo (much different car than Taurus). I've read that the S-Types shared a few parts with the Lincoln LS - but, have yet to find anything with Ford stamped on it on my S-Type 4.2. I do my own maintenance on mine, but, I armed myself with a Jaguar service CD so I wouldn't screw anything up.
Regards:
OldCEM
Mar 21, 2009 (8:28 am)
Well I can tell you that I and one other RE agent own a 2001 and 2004 respectively, The 2001 has over 110,000 miles on it with only minor probs, my 2004 ofcourse has the new XF trans. It's been in the shop a number of times but nothing major. All under warrantee and the best of service. I love the power of the V* and the economy. Recently I drove from Salt Lake City to Palm Springs and back and got a combined 26.5 mpg. ONe week driving ;around in PS included!
You know how fast that free way is? I got a speeding ticket LOL ,,,
Good Luck to you , I want my 3rd Jag after this.
#115 of 236 Re: Jaguar S-Type: Transmission Problems [beeware]
by soberguyjaguar
Mar 24, 2009 (1:48 pm)
Dear beeware, In answer to your question quite a bit of information would needed to advise properly. However, there are very few cars more expensive to keep on the road than an old Jaguar. My experience is that the ones with the most miles on them are more dependable than the ones rarely driven. of course the ones rarely driven can
still look brand new. In response to all this stuff about Ford, Ford purchased Jaguar
in 1990 and continued production in Coventry, England. They revamped the whole company and produced the first "Ford" Jaguar, the XK8 in 1996. This and the XJ8
were released as 1997. In 1996, Jaguar had an owner satisfaction rating of "much
worse than average", second only to Land Rover in owner dislike. For 1997 their
customer satisfaction was "much better than average" about the same as Honda.
Ford owned Jaguar and Land Rover for 18 years and never made a profit. They did
however revitalize the marque by building super posh cars that are surprisingly dependable. Dependability for a car with high performance, multigear trans, auto
suspension and auto cruise and wipers is unfortunately going to be worse than on
a simple car. That's why Honda is taking such a hit on their 2008 Accords. When you have more features, there are more things to break. An old car with a lot of features can be expensive. Especially when considering that people who are selling
their car tend to put off maintainence. I had a '97 xk8 from 2006 to 2008 and it looked and drove like brand new. I only spent about $900 on it total and absolutely
NOTHING" Ford" would work correctly on it. I had to convert one of my Ford factory scanners to Jaguar to read anything but the OBDII codes. Then it wouldn't work on
Ford,Lincoln, or Mazda. I have a 2006 s-type v-8 4.2 that I love better than any car
I've owned, but it has the 6speed ZF transmission and not that somewhat weaker unit in previous models. Try Worldpac.com to buy all your ignition and other parts.
You can't use ford spark plugs in the Jag engines. The harmonics are different. Internal parts for the 2000 Jags are expensive and not available from anyone but Jag. Best of Luck, Soberguyjaguar.
#116 of 236 Re: Jaguar S-Type: Transmission Problems [soberguyjaguar]
by beeware
Mar 24, 2009 (2:19 pm)
Thanks for getting back to me. I'm not a mechanic, but my instincts never fail. After 2 short months this car is giving me problems already. Hey, i know its not a new car, but i can't stand problematic cars. 8 out of 10 messages on this forum have nothing good to say about these cars. I keep reading about how trashy transmissions they have.......i don't know, but they sound pretty convincing. You sound very informed... should i just get rid of this car or what??? I'm about to trade it in.
#117 of 236 Re: Jaguar S-Type: Transmission Problems [beeware]
by soberguyjaguar
Mar 24, 2009 (5:27 pm)
Hard to say without knowing what is wrong with it. I've fixed some of these just by
taking out the brand new but wrong spark plugs and installing correct ones. Incorrect
spark plugs(Lincoln LS) for example send out minute radio signals that mess with
PCM and oxygen signal sensors. Has any one read the codes? Why do you say it has a misfire? Misfires can cause the transmission to act up but you wouldn't have the same codes in the transmission module as for an internal transmission problem.
How many miles on the car, who bought from, what part of the country, service records? How much paid, how much would you lose to trade, and are you trading for
a new car or a used Range Rover?
#118 of 236 Re: Jaguar S-Type: Transmission Problems [soberguyjaguar]
by soberguyjaguar
Mar 25, 2009 (8:58 am)
By the way, any one who thinks that Jags are the only cars with transmission problems might want to go to the home page of this blog and type in"Lexus transmission problems" or " Honda transmission problems" and just start at the top of the page and read until you vomit or go get your jag fixed.
#119 of 236 Re: Jaguar S-Type: Transmission Problems [soberguyjaguar]
by beeware
Mar 25, 2009 (9:32 am)
You are correct. Jags are not the only cars with transmission problems. My 2000 honda accord had tranny problems, but honda replaced it with a new one, not rebuilt or fixed. Never had a problem since. Its been 4 years now. There are cars with chronic excessive tranny problems. Are jags one of these??? The problem isn't fixing it, but am I going to have to fix every 6 months to a year??? I don't have any service records, its a new york car, 76,000 miles , and It jerks a little when I go over 50 mph. It may just be bad plugs. But there's definitely a tranny problem.