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#60 of 109
Transmission Problem? by carsrfun2
May 01, 2007 (7:12 pm)
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I have a 99 intrigue with the 3.5L engine and I have a problem between 35-45 mph where it shifts really hard( you can feel it it almost feels like it misses 3rd. If you floor it, it will shift again at 60 mph really hard! Then I have a problem with a very high idol sometimes it idols as high has 3,000 RPM. Any ideas or any one have the same problem??
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Re: 99 Olds Intrigue goes dead while driving [carsrfun2] by mtram
May 01, 2007 (7:43 pm)
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Replying to: carsrfun2 (May 01, 2007 7:04 pm)

I had the voltage on the battery and alternator check and it checked out fine. Also had a new starter and battery cables put in a week ago. After talking to several shops, my next try is the ignition control module. I'm told that the starting and going dead issue are two symptoms of the ICM going bad. Is there a way to check the ICM to be certain it is that before I pour more $$$ in to this car?
 
The problem I was having with the hard shifting is fixed. I had new plugs and wires put in and the car is running great with more power than ever. if the dang thing would crank and not go dead while driving I may get another 100K miles. The crazy thing is...it's so random. It may crank on the first try for 3-4 days then not crank.
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Re: 99 Olds Intrigue goes dead while driving [mtram] by 99intrigue
Aug 07, 2007 (5:44 pm)
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Replying to: mtram (May 01, 2007 7:43 pm)

My Olds had the same problem for a couple of years. I recently found out it is the "Crankshaft Position Sensor". That part of my car is fixed... I have 127k miles and just now having to replace motor mounts and possibly a transmission.
 
Just checking this site to see if anyone is having the transmission problem with the 3.5 ??.
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Re: 99 Olds Intrigue goes dead while driving [mtram] by 99intrigue
Aug 07, 2007 (6:42 pm)
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Replying to: mtram (Mar 05, 2007 5:55 pm)

I had the same problem on and off for a couple of years. I lately found out it is the "Crankshaft Position Sensor". At a local parts store around $60.
My 3.5 is still shifting hard, transmission
I checked my trans fluid and it has the metal color on my rag.
Anyone have any ideas?
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Re: 99 Olds Intrigue goes dead while driving [99intrigue] by mick1
Aug 09, 2007 (5:00 pm)
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Replying to: 99intrigue (Aug 07, 2007 6:42 pm)

I had the CPS fixed in 1 week, check engine light went on and the computer stored a code. How many years has the tranny been giving you problems? Wait for the engine to blow and you won't need a tranny repair.
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Re: 99 Intrigue GLS shake and shudder [pastort] by gur1
Oct 17, 2007 (8:04 am)
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Replying to: pastort (Dec 29, 2005 7:17 pm)

GM Transmision Intermittent Hard Shifting, Clunking, Jerking
 
GM 4T65E - 4 speed automatic transmissions found in many
1997 and newer vehicles equipped with the 3800 engine and
most 2000 and newer vehicles with the 3400 and 3500 engines.
 
Description:
Everything is fine when you just started engine.
(It’s just fine when cold)
Sometimes after a long drive, stop and go traffic, or when accelerate really fast. All of the sudden you’ll notice "hard shifts" where car slightly jerks when it shifts. Shutting off the car for few (10 minutes) will make this condition go away until you drive a few more miles or the vehicle warms up and the hard shifting will return. (Notice Check Engine light remains OFF)
 
This is perhaps one of the most common problems with this transmission. It has been a problem since the release in 1997 and can happen for no reason at all even with clean fluid and very low mileage.
 
Solution:
Replacing Pressure Control Solenoid or EPC will most likely correct this condition and again is probably the most common problem found in any year of this transmission.
 
Details:
The EPC solenoid controls line pressure and has a spool valve which oscillates back and forth to regulate transmission line pressure based on commanded pcm signals dependant on lots of various inputs from the vehicle. The spool valve in the solenoid will bind up and cause loss of pressure control from the pcm. The pcm constantly monitors shift timing in milliseconds and if this is not within programmed parameters after a few shift cycles the pcm triggers trouble code P1811 which is Max Adapt/Long Shift. This code will not set the Engine Light but will dissable all adaptive shifts and will max out line pressure in the transmission which causes the harsh shifts...
 
Other solution is using premium engine oil to keep systems running cooler.
 
I have 2000 Oldsmobile Intrigue with 155.000 Km. when it started happening.
 
Valvoline engine oil worked-out as an alternative solution to replacing EPC the Electronic Pressure Control Solenoid
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Re: 99 Intrigue GLS shake and shudder [gur1] by intrigued2own
Nov 26, 2007 (5:36 am)
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Replying to: gur1 (Oct 17, 2007 8:04 am)

I'm not replying to brag, just to inform people on here in alternative way. I have a 1998 Intrigue I had bought new which currently has 202k with the original 3800 Series II engine/transmission. Never had any issues with either one or any electrical issues. I have had to replace the alternator and radiator one time at around 150k. I'm very meticulous with the maintenance schedules on my car and have always performed them ahead of the manual schedules. I believe that the schedules in the manual are drawn out way longer than they should be. I have also lived in the Midwest and the south and don't think any maintenance performed ahead of schedule is overkill. Every oil change has only had "Mobile 1" pure synthetic 2k and I have had the transmission fluid and filter changed every 30k. My transmission is the 4T70E which has never returned a code.
 
On a side note: If you're thinking of ever changing from Dex-Cool to green, I advise against it. What will happen is the green will eventually start to pit the metals inside the engine. My engine has always had the Dex-Cool and it's never caused any of the problems other people report. This could be due to the fact that I have always performed every maintenance task in at least half the recommended scheduled time. I completely understand that not every Intrigue has the same reliability, however if maintenance schedules were performed in half the time (or at least earlier) than the manual suggests, perhaps many owners issues may be avoided. Just some food for thought.
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Re: 99 Intrigue GLS shake and shudder [intrigued2own] by bold_1
Nov 28, 2007 (8:14 pm)
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Replying to: intrigued2own (Nov 26, 2007 5:36 am)

Intrigedtown, I recently had Jiffy lube change the coolant and put Gold Plus in there. The mechanic crossed out Dex Cool on the Sticker next to the reservoir and wrote gold plus. Do you know if this is harmful?
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Re: 99 Intrigue GLS shake and shudder [intrigued2own] by dtownfb
Dec 01, 2007 (6:46 pm)
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Replying to: intrigued2own (Nov 26, 2007 5:36 am)

Oil change with synthetic at every 2000 miles????? Big time waste of money.
 
The issue is not Dex Cool but the poorly designed upper intake manifold gasket in the 3.8L engine. Very common issue on all GM small block V6. finally came out with a re-designed gasket in 2003.
 
Many of the issues folks are having with the Intrigue has nothing to do with the maintenance schedule. Blinking headlights caused by a poorly designed alternator; poorly designed intermediate steering shaft; upper intake manifold failure (3.8L); problems with crankshaft position sensor; faulty ignition switch; excessive oil consumption; Secondary air pump; and it goes on and on.
 
Maybe there are poorly designed parts in the vehicle instead of lack of maintenance that has caused many of the problems. Just some food for thought.
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2000 intrigue, tranny not shifting into overdrive by jman33163
Dec 02, 2007 (6:51 am)
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hello
my father has a 2000 olds intrigue with over 200,000 miles on it. the transmission does not have a whine or make any other noises, shifts smoothly, not hard or jerky, but does not shift into overdrive any longer. this just started last week, which was about a week after (with help from others on this forum) cleaning the throttle body, maf senser, air filter and replacing the crank position sensor. don't think they should be related but mention just in case. has anyone had this problem? or know of a fix for it? i know the car has lots of miles and owes him nothing but he wants to keep it for a daily driver and keep miles off of his 95 vette and moms 04 caddy deville. thanks for any help you can provide for this problem. the info on this sight was very helpful in repairing the above mentioned problem with the crank sensor.
jman

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