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by jessealan
Sep 09, 2008 (6:41 am)
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I am thinking of the Hydroedge by michelin. Or the good year tripple treads. Give me some feed back if any one has more experience with these tires.
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Re: [jessealan] by coldcranker
Sep 09, 2008 (2:49 pm)
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Replying to: jessealan (Sep 09, 2008 6:41 am)

The 225/65-17 Goodyear Fortera Triple-Treds have amazingly good reviews on Tirerack - click here. After reading some of the reviews, I've got to think this one is a winner. Note the 225/65-17 is the tougher version of the Triple-Tred, not the passenger tire 215/65-17, although I don't know what all the difference would be. Note the 225/65-17 size Fortera Triple Tred has a "snowflake-on-the-mountain" symbol on the sidewall, meaning it performs about as well as a good snow tire, although its an all-season tire. Not bad.
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Re: [coldcranker] by saabturboid
Sep 12, 2008 (11:04 am)
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Replying to: coldcranker (Sep 09, 2008 2:49 pm)

In my opinion the Fortera Triple Treads are the wrong tire for a Freestyle.
 
The Forteras are truck tires, meaning they are designed for higher loads and light off-road duty, where as the Assurance tires are passenger vehicle tires designed for mostly paved road use. While it might sound appealing to have the truck tires just in case, they come at the cost of a thicker and heavier tire carcass that the Freestyles suspension was not designed for. Ride quality would likely suffer and the shocks likely wouldn't be up to dealing with the extra unsprung mass. At the very least you'd likely get lower gas mileage as a truck tire is going to have higher rolling resistance.
 
- Chad
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Re: [saabturboid] by coldcranker
Sep 13, 2008 (5:52 pm)
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Replying to: saabturboid (Sep 12, 2008 11:04 am)

I see what you're saying about the mass issue:
According to tirerack.com,
 
215/65-17:
   All are car tires in this size, and have a 1650 or 1700 lb load rating:
   Original Equipment Continentals:26 lbs
   Continental ContiProContacts: 23 lbs
   Bridgestone Turanza Serenity: 30 lbs
   Goodyear Assurance TripleTred: 30 lbs
   Michelin HydroEdge: 27 lbs
 
bigger 225/65-17 (adds 1/4 inch to ride height):
   Every tire listed in this size has an 1800 lb load rating:
   Continental 4x4 Contact: 27 lbs (truck)
   Michelin Energy LX4: 28 lbs (car tire)
   Michelin CrossTerrain SUV: 29 lbs (truck)
   Goodyear Integrity: 27 lbs (car tire)
   Bridgestone Dueler H/L Alenza: 32 lbs (truck)
   Goodyear Fortera TripleTred: 32 lbs (truck)
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Re: [coldcranker] by coldcranker
Sep 13, 2008 (6:00 pm)
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Replying to: coldcranker (Sep 13, 2008 5:52 pm)

Note the smaller Assurance TripleTreds are within 2 lbs (about 8%) of the bigger Fortera TripleTreds. That doesn't seem like enough to worry about.
 
If mass is an issue, the real choice seems to be the ContiProContacts in the smaller 215 size, which are a light 23 lbs each. Lighter tires do improve the ride though the reduction in unsprung mass.
 
Note that some of the truck tires in the larger 225 size are actually lighter than some of the passenger tires in the smaller 215 size!
 
I doubt if there would be much difference in rolling resistance getting the Forteras over the Assurance tripletreds.
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Toyo Versato or Dunlop Sport by style13
Sep 26, 2008 (5:32 am)
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Replying to: saabturboid (Sep 12, 2008 11:04 am)

Anyone have some experience with the Toyo Versado or Dunlop Sport for the Freestyle AWD? I am in New England so we get the full mix of weather. My Pirelli P6 are fully worn out at 36k miles. Not sure if another tire would be a step up or just the same. My priorities are safe in wet weather, wear well, good mileage. Then low noise followed by snow. We are on the coast so snow is not that major. Not looking for brand names but these tires were recommended by Town Fair Tire Store.
 
Thanks.
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Re: Toyo Versato or Dunlop Sport [style13] by coldcranker
Sep 26, 2008 (4:41 pm)
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Replying to: style13 (Sep 26, 2008 5:32 am)

style13,
For those conditions, I'd get the BF Goodrich Traction T/A, as they got a "AA" traction rating (temperature was "A"). Two A's for traction aren't that common, and it means they are very grippy. Reference tire rack's web page -- click here
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Range of tire+wheel weights possible by coldcranker
Sep 30, 2008 (4:39 pm)
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Replying to: saabturboid (Sep 12, 2008 11:04 am)

Getting back to the issue of weights of a tire+wheel, I was wondering what the best and worse case would be. How much variation is possible?
 
(for 215/65-17 original size)
Lightest: OZ Ultraleggera wheel with ContiProContacts would be 40 lbs total.
Heaviest: Sport Edition TK1 wheel with Goodyear Assurance Tripletred would be 60 lbs!
Stock: I think is about 53 lbs
 
The variation is substantial. The lighter the wheel/tire, the smoother the ride, through less unsprung mass. There is a 20 lb per tire/wheel spread in possibilites. Makes you think.
 
I know this is the kind of thing that racers pay attention to, but there are ride quality consequences for we Freestyle owners. Thinking of the physics of this, it would mean a more massive tire/wheel would not stick to a bumpy/wavy road as well, meaning you could lose traction sooner. Also, braking/acceleration would be worse in the highest mass case.
 
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Goodyear Assurance Tripple Tread tires by mark115
Dec 04, 2008 (9:47 am)
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Anyone had better luck with these tires? I bought 4, 205 60R16 Goodyear assurance tripple treads for my Hyundai XG 350 2 years ago.They were great the first winter even ok the second winter but now after only 32K miles they are worn to 3/32 and hydroplane and slip like crazy. And they are "LOUD" lots of road noise. They were rotated every 5-6ooo miles and no allignment problems Goodyear won't do anything till they are at 2/32 but I cannot keep em on the car another winter.Thanks Goodyear for your 80K mile warranty!
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Re: Range of tire+wheel weights possible [coldcranker] by coldcranker
Dec 04, 2008 (4:46 pm)
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Replying to: coldcranker (Sep 30, 2008 4:39 pm)

Just got some new Freestyle tires: 225/65-17 sized Pirelli Scorpion Ice & Snow.
 
Highly recommended. TR speed rated, so they are tough enough to withstand 118 mph sustained speeds. I'm going to leave them on year around, even though they are snow/ice rated. Recommended for any northern state & Canada. The 225 width fits better than the 215 stock tires.
 
There has been a class action lawsuit on tires similar to the 215/65-17 Continental ContiTouring tires original equipment on Freestyles. The same tire with the anti-puncture (ContiSeal) version was the subject of the lawsuit for fast tread wear. Those were fast wearing tires for most people!

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