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Re: Electronic glitches [rennybosch] by mike001
Mar 16, 2008 (7:25 am)
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Replying to: rennybosch (Mar 03, 2008 2:25 pm)

what is the difference b/tween the LWB and the SWB ?
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Re: Color choice feedback [stevestein] by mike001
Mar 16, 2008 (7:30 am)
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Replying to: stevestein (Feb 18, 2008 3:06 pm)

what color package have /did you decide on ?
I am looking at the Smoky Granite & black leather combination ...did you get any response good or bad on this color combo ?
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Re: Electronic glitches [mike001] by rennybosch
Mar 17, 2008 (2:58 pm)
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Replying to: mike001 (Mar 16, 2008 7:25 am)

According to specs, they are essentially the same car except of course the LWB (Long Wheel Base) is about 5 or 6 inches longer, most of which is in extra rear seat legroom. But there were reports that the SWB (Short Wheel Base) had more wind noise than the LWB because the latter had better window glass, or something. So that made me think that there may be other areas in which they made the LWB better than the SWB. The other important difference is that some options are only available on the LWB.
 
That's really all I know about the matter.
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Prices are dropping.... by gteach26
Mar 25, 2008 (7:17 am)
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South Florida.. an ad for "the world's largest Lexus dealer" has over 75 2008 LS460's on sale for $8000 off MSRP. There seems to be no fine print... just pick your 460, take off 8 grand and go home.
 
No mention on the "L" having the same deal.
 
It looks like the 460's are finally coming down in price. That is GREAT news.
 
Now the LX570 needs to follow suit......
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Prices are dropping by traube
Mar 27, 2008 (4:10 am)
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just bought ls 460 in south florida-countyline lexus for $8300 off MSRP-no fine print-picked up car last week
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Lowering prices -- good news!! by gteach26
Mar 27, 2008 (7:29 am)
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Great news traube!
 
Lexus has spoiled me into thinking of the LS as being "fairly priced" in the high 50's, low 60's. Dealers have been trying to take advantage of the "ALL NEW LS!!" to "mercederize" their prices but I think that party is now coming to a close.
 
Aside from the greater HP, the difference between the 430 (selling at near invoice its last few years here in South Fla.) and the 460 just doesn't seem like enough to justify the price jumps dealers have been trying to sustain. The LS went from mid to high 50K "real world" sale prices to 70K on the 460. Lease prices jumped from 700 to 800 per month for 36 months to well over $1000 per month.
 
That's one of the problems with achieving near perfection -- what else can they do or add to these cars to make them pricier yet still appear to be a good value? The self parking gimmick was cute, but who really wants that and is willing to pay a premium for it?
 
I know this is totally subjective, but in my mind the LS has always been, and always should be, the nicer looking, more reliable, and much less expensive S class alternative.
 
Now that the newness is wearing off the 460 and the early adopters have had their fun, perhaps the car will now become more accessible to us regular folks.
 
In other words, perhaps my wife will let me get one now!
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Re: Wind Noise Problem [sierra7] by maloof
Mar 30, 2008 (6:27 am)
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Replying to: sierra7 (Feb 10, 2008 3:49 pm)

Did you have any luck with the duck tape? I have the same car/same problem.The dealer did the TSB fix and it did not help. It is a crosswind problem I think. I added some masking tape to a few suspect areas today to see if I get any relief. Let me know what you found out.
Thanks
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Is the Mark Levenson system worth it? by jim9921
Apr 01, 2008 (2:39 pm)
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I'm in the final stages of leasing a LS460 but am having a problem finding the color I want (Obsidian w/black) in a car with the ML system. There are a couple cars out there with Nav, but not the ML, plus they are about $4k cheaper since they also opt for the comfort pkg instead of the comfort plus, which has no value for me. I've always had the ML system in my previous cars and it's been fine, but in the car I either use the radio or home made CD's and I wonder if the difference is that big a deal.
I'd appreciate any feedback from those that have experience with both.
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Re: Is the Mark Levenson system worth it? [jim9921] by gteach26
Apr 02, 2008 (7:07 am)
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Replying to: jim9921 (Apr 01, 2008 2:39 pm)

I've been exposed to three Lexus radio systems -- Mark Levinson, Lexus Premium Sound System (I think this is their basic radio) and Nackamichi (spelled wrong, I know).
 
I am not an audiophile by any means. I generally listen to contemporary, jazz, and 80,90's pop with the volume at around 30-40% of full strength.
 
To me, all three systems sound the same.
 
Better trained ears will beg to differ, I'm sure.
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Re: Is the Mark Levenson system worth it? [gteach26] by sidgriggs
Apr 02, 2008 (7:59 am)
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Replying to: gteach26 (Apr 02, 2008 7:07 am)

Without the Levinson, you cannot watch DVD's. I purchased an 07 LS460 with Nav, but no Levinson. Then installed a Nav bypass kit so I could use the Nav even when driving. This kit would also allow use of the DVD while in motion, but I don't have Levinson, so I can't watch movies while I drive.

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