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Re: Electronic glitches [tricky73] by bmlexus
Mar 04, 2008 (12:49 pm)
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Replying to: tricky73 (Mar 03, 2008 11:56 am)

Why the surprise... Lexus does build bad cars... had one also
 
I wouldn't say they build bad cars some problems nothing very big or maybe the exceptional of the GS recall, still they do build better reliability than the european cars.
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Re: Electronic glitches [marday] by dcwalker
Mar 13, 2008 (1:25 pm)
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Replying to: marday (Mar 03, 2008 11:56 am)

Not sure what glitches you refer to but my 2007 LS460 has been the car from hell, and I have been driving them since 1990. It is difficult to know where to start with my complaints on this car but here are some:
 
1. Sometimes driving this car is so sweet, I think I am dreaming. It can be smooth in acceleration through all gears and tons of power. At other times, usually at slower speeds, the care can rev a little between shifts, seems sluggish, and noisier than the time I drove it before. I call it my Jekel & Hyde car.
2. Of course there is the wind noise on the driver side window.
3. The brakes are hard to make a smooth stops.
4. The command center is too complex to work and is a joke. My new top of the line Chevy pickup truck shames this Lexus in its simplicity.
5. The car tends to catch groves in the street, pulling the car left or right, especially noticeable when braking.
6. It is difficult to hold the car precisely in curves.
7. Some time the high pressure injectors make alot of noise. Sometimes they make none.
 
When I take the car to the dealer complaining about any of this, they don't know what to do. My conclusion is that if you want a car that has exquisite fit and finish, goes fast in a straight line, and is smooth as glass doing it (most of the time), then buy an LS 460. If you want a car that goes pretty fast, can do just about anything the Lexus can do with more simplicity, and costs a lot less, buy a Buick or something else. Lexus has screwed this car up. I will not buy another.
 
P.S. - I drove both the big BMW and Mercedes before I bought the LS. All three of these cars have gone off the deep end on gadgets. It seems to be a battle of the whistles and bells instead of the ease of operation. I would say the Lexus still has a ways to go on everything but fit and finish when comparing to the other two. Of course, it is a little cheaper, for what that is worth.
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Air Suspension/Euro-Tuned Suspension by aklein2
Mar 14, 2008 (7:31 am)
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Is it available on the LS 460 (base model)? How does it work? How does it compare with the old Euro-tuned suspension on the LS 430 (without which I would not have acquired this car, which I still drive with joy)? Is the Euro-tuned suspension still available on the LS 460?
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Re: Electronic glitches [rennybosch] by mike001
Mar 16, 2008 (7:25 am)
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Replying to: rennybosch (Mar 03, 2008 2:25 pm)

what is the difference b/tween the LWB and the SWB ?
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Re: Color choice feedback [stevestein] by mike001
Mar 16, 2008 (7:30 am)
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Replying to: stevestein (Feb 18, 2008 3:06 pm)

what color package have /did you decide on ?
I am looking at the Smoky Granite & black leather combination ...did you get any response good or bad on this color combo ?
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Re: Electronic glitches [mike001] by rennybosch
Mar 17, 2008 (2:58 pm)
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Replying to: mike001 (Mar 16, 2008 7:25 am)

According to specs, they are essentially the same car except of course the LWB (Long Wheel Base) is about 5 or 6 inches longer, most of which is in extra rear seat legroom. But there were reports that the SWB (Short Wheel Base) had more wind noise than the LWB because the latter had better window glass, or something. So that made me think that there may be other areas in which they made the LWB better than the SWB. The other important difference is that some options are only available on the LWB.
 
That's really all I know about the matter.
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Prices are dropping.... by gteach26
Mar 25, 2008 (7:17 am)
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South Florida.. an ad for "the world's largest Lexus dealer" has over 75 2008 LS460's on sale for $8000 off MSRP. There seems to be no fine print... just pick your 460, take off 8 grand and go home.
 
No mention on the "L" having the same deal.
 
It looks like the 460's are finally coming down in price. That is GREAT news.
 
Now the LX570 needs to follow suit......
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Prices are dropping by traube
Mar 27, 2008 (4:10 am)
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just bought ls 460 in south florida-countyline lexus for $8300 off MSRP-no fine print-picked up car last week
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Lowering prices -- good news!! by gteach26
Mar 27, 2008 (7:29 am)
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Great news traube!
 
Lexus has spoiled me into thinking of the LS as being "fairly priced" in the high 50's, low 60's. Dealers have been trying to take advantage of the "ALL NEW LS!!" to "mercederize" their prices but I think that party is now coming to a close.
 
Aside from the greater HP, the difference between the 430 (selling at near invoice its last few years here in South Fla.) and the 460 just doesn't seem like enough to justify the price jumps dealers have been trying to sustain. The LS went from mid to high 50K "real world" sale prices to 70K on the 460. Lease prices jumped from 700 to 800 per month for 36 months to well over $1000 per month.
 
That's one of the problems with achieving near perfection -- what else can they do or add to these cars to make them pricier yet still appear to be a good value? The self parking gimmick was cute, but who really wants that and is willing to pay a premium for it?
 
I know this is totally subjective, but in my mind the LS has always been, and always should be, the nicer looking, more reliable, and much less expensive S class alternative.
 
Now that the newness is wearing off the 460 and the early adopters have had their fun, perhaps the car will now become more accessible to us regular folks.
 
In other words, perhaps my wife will let me get one now!
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Re: Wind Noise Problem [sierra7] by maloof
Mar 30, 2008 (6:27 am)
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Replying to: sierra7 (Feb 10, 2008 3:49 pm)

Did you have any luck with the duck tape? I have the same car/same problem.The dealer did the TSB fix and it did not help. It is a crosswind problem I think. I added some masking tape to a few suspect areas today to see if I get any relief. Let me know what you found out.
Thanks

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