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Alarm going off
by marday
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Jan 07, 2008 (5:56 am)
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The alarm on my 2008 LS460 has twice gone off in the middle of the night in a closed garage by itself. By the time I put my pants on to go there it stops. It lasts for perhaps two minutes. This is unacceptable. Has anyone else had this happen and what can be done? The dealer says they haven't heard of this. I had a cadillac that did this years ago and it was still doing it when I got rid of it.
Thanks for any input.
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- #811 of 866
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Alarm going off
by tricky73
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Jan 07, 2008 (10:28 am)
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Sounds very similar to a problem with my 460 before I dumped it in favor or a GS450h.
One of the more random annoying electronic glitches I had was the windshield wipers operating  high noon on a cloudless day. Several other problems I experienced have been documented earlier on this thread; I also recall others describing going to their automobile in the morning finding the windows down and the sunroof open...fortunately it was in the garage.
Lexus is vulnerable to repeated complaints...they finally rebated $700 for that miserable park-o-matic feature I had, that neither I nor the dealer could demonstrate as a dependable, useful feature.
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- #812 of 866
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Re: "Touring Package" Only for LS460L - See "Wear" Disclaimers [slexy1]
by rogersmithiii
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Jan 07, 2008 (3:23 pm)
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Replying to: slexy1 (Nov 03, 2006 2:22 pm)
The 430 with the European handling was a fantastic car - stiff enough to handle like a dream, but soft enough to offer a wonderfully plush ride. I loved my friend's car, which I drove at every opportunity. Awesome. Just awesome.
I found the standard 460 however to be a sorry disappointment. I thought the car rode like an Avalon (with way too much body roll and a way too squishy ride), and was boring as hell to drive down the highway. Edmunds review agreed. Although I haven't yet driven an LS460L with the touring package, I have a feeling that you have to configure the car in that fashion in order to get something worthwhile. I would not buy a straight 460. Why Lexus won't offer the touring package on the SWM 460 is beyond me.
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Re: Poor service from Pohanka Lexus [atlas7]
by rogersmithiii
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Jan 07, 2008 (3:30 pm)
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Replying to: atlas7 (Sep 22, 2007 5:49 am)
This exact same thing happened at Lexus of Watertown in Massachusetts. I finally canceled the order after getting a changing story every time I called after the promised due date. It took me weeks to get a refund on my deposit. I get the impression that they don't like to take orders, and prefer to sell what's already been shipped.
Don't take it personally.
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- #814 of 866
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Re: Wind Noise Problem [leza2279]
by rogersmithiii
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Jan 07, 2008 (3:35 pm)
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Replying to: leza2279 (Jul 11, 2007 1:02 pm)
I'd say give it a shot, but corporate doesn't give a darn despite the advertising hype. My letter to the President of Lexus USA, and Toyota Worldwide generated a form letter, and a phone call from the dealer telling me that they were "really really really sorry".
They really aren't that bad if you ignore all of the advertising hype, and discount everything the dealer / sales guy tells you. They're an average car company. Period.
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Re: "Touring Package" Only for LS460L - See "Wear" Disclaimers [rogersmithi
by tricky73
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Jan 07, 2008 (9:56 pm)
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Replying to: rogersmithiii (Jan 07, 2008 3:23 pm)
I would concur with your comments re the 430 w/Euro suspension; I had one and foolishly traded it for a 460 w/touring package. Although the 460TP features were quite satisfying, other parts of the machine soured me on that model. As I read the current Lexus brochere the 460 SWB can be ordered w/air suspension (implying it is part of a TP,) but the print is at the bottom of the page and VERY tiny, and dealers do not know the cost or lead time for the order.
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Re: Wind Noise Problem [leza2279]
by sierra7
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Feb 10, 2008 (3:49 pm)
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Replying to: leza2279 (Jul 11, 2007 1:02 pm)
I have an 07 LS-460. Lexus has already replaced the front windows with double pane windows and additional foam insulation in pillars as per TSB. The wind noise issue is still not resolved. Complained to LEXUS HQ and dealership. I have a feeling that LEXUS HQ knows that they have a design flaw and cannot be corrected. After 8 weeks they gave me their standard answer that there is nothing further they can help me with. I have sent them a certified letter evoking the lemon law. I am a Mechanical Engineer and trying to find cause of turbulence around the window pillars. The wind noise is due to turbulence from cross wind. The edge of window pillars where connected to the roof is about 1" higher than the roof. As an experiment I used masking tape, and taped the seam from front windshield to the rear windshield on both sides. I am driving the car for about three days and so far the wind noise is only present on extremely windy days. I am curious to see if others can try this solution and may be Lexus HQ can come up with a TSB. Even Lexus factory engineer agreed that the windshield is not as flushed on LS-460 as LS-430.
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Re: Wind Noise Problem [sierra7]
by rennybosch
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Feb 10, 2008 (3:58 pm)
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Replying to: sierra7 (Feb 10, 2008 3:49 pm)
sierra, is there a difference between the 460 and the 460L in the way the window pillars meet the roof? It would seem that studying the differences between the SWB and the LWB should give some useful clues.
Good luck with your analysis -- Renny
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Re: Wind Noise Problem [rennybosch]
by sierra7
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Feb 11, 2008 (5:38 am)
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Replying to: rennybosch (Feb 10, 2008 3:58 pm)
I test drove the LWB before purchase. Unfortunately it was raining and during rain neither SWB or LWB has wind noise issues. As far as the design, both cars have similar construction. I drove the car with masking tape in very strong wind on highway and the turbulent wind noise was significantly subdued. The car still allows too much air close to body but that cannot be changed, and it does not bother most people as long as it stays steady.
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Re: "Touring Package" Only for LS460L - See "Wear" Disclaimers [rogersmithi
by rennybosch
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Feb 11, 2008 (7:35 pm)
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Replying to: tricky73 (Jan 07, 2008 9:56 pm)
tricky73, you should give the 460 another chance. The 08 model seems to be pretty much problem-free. You may remember that I also felt keeping my '04 LS430 was the smart thing to do, but when I kept reading all these great reports I finally decided to jump, and I haven't regretted it.
I did insist on getting the air suspension (but not the 19" wheels -- i.e., not the Touring Package), as well as the Dynamic Cruise Control, so I wound up with the LWB and an 86K price tag. The superiority of the 460 over the 430 is not in major features (the UL version had almost all of them), but in the little details that make for extra luxury, like the way the doors close, the Nav screen, and even, believe it or not, the ride quality.
Best regards -- Renny
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