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#6 of 866 Re: "Touring Package" Only for LS460L - See "Wear" Disclaimers [ljflx] by ikey78 Nov 04, 2006 (10:54 am)
Replying to: ljflx (Nov 04, 2006 9:27 am) I have seen five new LS's. Four had Dunlop Sport Maxx A1 A/S and one had Bridgestone Turanza. Replies to this message: hendjaz (Nov 04, 2006 11:45 am) ikey78 (Nov 04, 2006 2:18 pm)
#7 of 866 Re: "Touring Package" Only for LS460L - See "Wear" Disclaimers [ikey78] by hendjaz Nov 04, 2006 (11:45 am)
Replying to: ikey78 (Nov 04, 2006 10:54 am) The four with the Dunlop A/S were probably regular L versions while the Turanza may have been the Touring version if it was the Turanza summer tire. The Touring L package comes with 19" summer tires rather than A/S. Replies to this message: ikey78 (Nov 04, 2006 2:18 pm)
#8 of 866 Re: "Touring Package" Only for LS460L - See "Wear" Disclaimers [hendjaz] by ikey78 Nov 04, 2006 (2:18 pm)
Replying to: hendjaz (Nov 04, 2006 11:45 am) None of the cars I saw had the touring package. The one with the Bridgestone Turanza EL 42 was a 460 SWB. The others with the Dunlops were a mix of SWB and LWB   Tirerack lists all of the OEM tires as follows.   http://www.tirerack.com/tires/SelectTireSize.jsp?autoMake=Lexus&autoModel=LS460L- - &autoYear=2007&autoModClar=Standard+Model
#9 of 866 Re: LS bigger tires... [excelsior88] by garyh1 Nov 04, 2006 (4:17 pm)
Replying to: excelsior88 (Nov 04, 2006 2:35 am) On the LS 430 they had a similar disclaimer about tire life being less...   Interestingly, I seem to recall that Lexus never changed the footnote on limited tire life when they switched from 18" summer tires option on the 2004 LS to 18" all-season tires on the '05. Although both are low-profile, I believe the all-season tires last significantly longer than the summer tires; but knowing Toyota/Lexus' overly legalistic approach to everything, they probably decided to keep the disclaimer unchanged so nobody could have any possible basis to complain.   From the folks who brought you the requirement to press "I Agree" every time you start the car, make the navigation system unusable when moving, put ugly stickers on the visors that can't be removed, etc., etc. Replies to this message: excelsior88 (Nov 05, 2006 8:06 pm) garyh1 (Nov 05, 2006 11:45 pm)
#10 of 866 Re: "Touring Package" Only for LS460L - See "Wear" Disclaimers [ljflx] by nvbanker Nov 05, 2006 (4:35 pm)
Replying to: ljflx (Nov 04, 2006 9:27 am) I hope they are Michelins rather than the Dunlops they've favored the last few years. Anyone pay attention to tires on the LS460 and 460L?   I'm a Michelin fan - but Consumer Report rated the Dunlops higher, surprisingly. Whatever that means. Price could be a factor with them too.   I saw Bridgestones on the new 460 I drove. I don't like that - I'm still bitter over the Firestone/Explorer disaster, and Bridgestone (Firestone's parent) just stonewalled and refused to admit liability until forced too. Why Lexus would buy their tires for their cars is beyond me. Probably were I to buy a new 460 that had Bridgestones on it, I'd demand they switch them to the Dunlops.
#11 of 866 Re: LS bigger tires... [garyh1] by excelsior88 Nov 05, 2006 (8:06 pm)
Replying to: garyh1 (Nov 04, 2006 4:17 pm) Thx for the info! I didn't know that the LS 430 '04s-'06s had better tire life than expected, given the warning. Replies to this message: garyh1 (Nov 05, 2006 11:45 pm)
#12 of 866 Re: LS bigger tires... [excelsior88] by garyh1 Nov 05, 2006 (11:45 pm)
Replying to: excelsior88 (Nov 05, 2006 8:06 pm) Actually, to be accurate I think the '04 LS had the option of 18" summer tires that do in fact have a very short life and deserve the low mileage warning; the '05 and '06 had optional 18" all-season tires that last longer than the summer tires - although probably not as long as the 17" regular tires (which are not low-profile).
#13 of 866 Why LS shipments were low by ljflx Nov 07, 2006 (6:41 am)
Blockbuster quarter at Toyota - so now we know why there were no reported LS shipments in September and only half a month reported for October. With numbers like this you defer revenue, and then defer and defer some more. Next quarter will be huge also - reporting only half a month of LS shipments in October was a tell tale sign. Europe is beginning to fall their way now as well.   http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/061107/earns_japan_toyota.html?.v=10
#14 of 866 LS460 in Japan by idele Nov 07, 2006 (10:57 am)
I got back from Tokyo a week ago. The LS is doing extremely well in Japan. The Lexus dealer in Tokyo I visited this time was, as usual, company owned and the sales staff consists of Toyota employees. Communicating in English was more difficult at this dealer than at the other two I've visited on earlier trips, but they were enormously helpful and courteous. I obtained the Japanese LS460/LS460L catalog (hard bound) for my local dealer which appears to include more options than are available here. Also full price lists for corporate options and dealer options. I'll leave it to my dealer, who requested me to get the literature, to sort things out. The LS looks better than its photographs.
#15 of 866 Saw two on the road today by ljflx Nov 07, 2006 (7:16 pm)
First time I've seen them in action. One conservative guy was doing about 60 mpgh on the Garden State Patkway here in NJ. Another guy was flying on the same road at about 80. The car looks great in motion. Beautiful silhouette and very dynamic. Then I came home and found out that my friend who has a Euro edition LS430 just leased an $86K LS460L for around $1400 (tax included) a month on a 3 year 15K mile lease. He couldn't drive a discount but got the dealer to throw in $700 toward an after market $1900 DVD rear entertainment system with the screens embedded in the had rest. He gets the car with the DVD system installed next week. All of this is killing me as late March looks too far away. I want this car in my garage ASAP and when he takes me for a spin in the new car next week that craving is going to get worse.

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