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Lexus LS 460/LS 460L News, Views and Opinions

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Re: a certain germancarfan... [syswei] by ljflx
Nov 09, 2006 (9:18 pm)
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Replying to: syswei (Nov 09, 2006 7:44 pm)

Funny - looks like the guys in the car are ready to fight with each other. But that's a back-in vs parallel park so was that the right set-up?. This is a feature that was purely a marketing item as far as I'm concerned. It gets press and raises brand awareness for a feature that is not needed. But they did show it on Fox news and the car parked perfectly in Manhattan on live TV.
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Re: a certain germancarfan... [ljflx] by lexus111
Nov 09, 2006 (11:19 pm)
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Replying to: ljflx (Nov 09, 2006 9:18 pm)

I just ordered a LWB that I will find out on Monday when it may arrive... The only way the car seems to be available with the options that I wanted also seems to only come with the park assist. I live in Vegas and we don't have a need to parallel park here more than once a decade. Unfortunatley it comes with it anyway. I will post my findings about the parking when I get the car. The video IS funny though. IMO this feature is for marketing only and has a long ways to go before it will become a useful item in the real world. I believe that most people looking to purchase this car are above average drivers and can park the car themselves A LOT faster. The ones that aren't will also not know how to set-up the auto-park feature anyway and will also continue to watch the blinking clock on their VCR's not knowing how to set that either.
 
Either way still a great marketing idea and since I am now buying one, anything that will keep up the value of this car works for me.
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Re: a certain germancarfan... [lexus111] by jd14
Nov 10, 2006 (7:59 am)
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Replying to: lexus111 (Nov 09, 2006 11:19 pm)

When you get your LWB LS on Monday would you please post your comments about the legroom, footwell, and trunkspace. Many people have had different opinions on these matters.
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Re: LS460 L [ljflx] by tagman
Nov 10, 2006 (8:09 am)
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Replying to: ljflx (Nov 08, 2006 8:32 pm)

And if it goes the other way with battery becoming dominant what hapens to diesel buyers?? IMO - the risk is the opposite of what you think.
 
ljflx - because it is you , I will post this.
 
You should consider that diesels have been increasing sales faster on a percentage basis than hybrids for a number of months now, and that's with the limited selection that exists currently. Once the selection increases, and it WILL significantly, the percentage growth is projected to take off . . . and it WILL.
 
Also, there is the issue of infrastructure. There are many pumps and pumping stations all throughout the land, and there are very large interests in this revenue producing business. Even some of the big ag businesses have taken interest, because diesels can burn fuels from fossil sources OR agriculture sources . . . both HUGE businesses.
 
Either way, the diesels represent a way to keep the pumps flowing, and still deliver enormous fuel economy. The German diesel alliance will target the U.S. market soon with a marketing blitz unlike anything ever seen in this country.
 
I am not saying that the hybrid is dead, but the risk has indeed increased more for the hybrid recently, and will continue to be at an elevated level as we move forward, at LEAST for a number of years, while the new diesel products come to market and gather momentum and major advertising dollars.
 
Like it or not, modern diesels will become the "hot" player for a quite a number of years . . . and this time frame coincides with your potential ownership of the LS600hL. Risk? Oh yeah, plenty, sorry to say.
 
Fact is that the diesels are coming, and the hybrids will be affected. There is no way around this. I wish I could tell you otherwise. Especially since you are about to place some serious green into a hybrid. Personally, I have changed my thinking, and if it were me in your situation, I would pause for reconsideration of this purchase. But whatever you do, I certainly hope the best for you.
 
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Here I am again by pat HOST
Nov 10, 2006 (8:39 am)
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This discussion isn't about hybrids, diesels, etc., so let's keep that in mind... Thanks.
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Re: a certain germancarfan... [jd14] by lexus111
Nov 10, 2006 (8:51 am)
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Replying to: jd14 (Nov 10, 2006 7:59 am)

I have already seen the trunk space on a LWB just like the one that I requested with the reclining rear seats. If there is much of any difference in trunk space it could only be a couple of inches at most. The dealer did confirm that his understanding was that the Hybrid would definitely have a more noticeable difference but wasn't sure how much.
BTW I ordered the LWB yesterday which it will then take a few days to let me know when I can expect delivery which may be anywhere from a few days to up to a month depending upon availability.
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"It's great to be home again" by cyclone4
Nov 10, 2006 (10:52 am)
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Wow! I was wondering where everybody was gathering to discuss the new LS. The First Drives and Styling Impression LS forums have been almost totally dead the past couple weeks. Everything has been scattered all over the place. But it seems that this is now the forum to discuss the new LS. I found this forum by accident. I was lurking at the HELM forum this morning and the Host had a link for the various sedans including the new LS. By the way, the HELM is now closed. There are others like myself that are probably still wondering where everybody is. I know that Dr Fill, for example, is "lost and disappointed".
 
I am going to wait until the spring to see what Lexus is going to do about AWD possibilities on the LS460L. I assume there is no new news on this front. As some of you know, I really want the LS600HL but I don't think I can cope with a tiny trunk. More will be revealed in the next several months.
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Re: "It's great to be home again" [cyclone4] by pat HOST
Nov 10, 2006 (12:44 pm)
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Replying to: cyclone4 (Nov 10, 2006 10:52 am)

New discussion courtesy of syswei: High End Luxury Vehicles.
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Re: "It's great to be home again" [pat] by syswei
Nov 10, 2006 (2:11 pm)
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Replying to: pat (Nov 10, 2006 12:44 pm)

Hey, those of you who were boycotting the old HELM forum, consider this an invitation to join the new HELV forum. At last try it out...maybe it will turn out to be a more civil place than the old hangout.
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Re: Here I am again [pat] by anthonyp
Nov 10, 2006 (2:40 pm)
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Replying to: pat (Nov 10, 2006 8:39 am)

I made a mistake, and thought I was writing about the 600h, therefore the hybred vs diesel engine was of interest to me...I couldn`t find my post so went to my name for `recent posts` and found out the mistake...Things will settle down shortly---Thanks for understanding Tony

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