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#1 of 877 LS460/460L home board by ljflx

Nov 03, 2006 (12:17 pm)

Let's huddle here for a general discussion, call it a home board, for the LS460 and LS460L and discuss what we like or dislike about the car, why you would buy/lease it, why you wouldn't buy/lease it, and other general data points and speculation about the car (if and when will we get AWD, for example) plus any lease or buy price deals you are negotiating if you are a buyer or potential buyer. As well chime in with any news or rumors from people in the know or car mags about future enhancements of the car later in the model year or in ensuing years (new nav system upgrades, larger engine displacement, AWD (again), will there be performance versions offered, etc etc). LS600HL has it's own board and probably should stay separate unless members think otherwise. As well it still has a lot of speculative data concerning its price and other specialty options whereas the LS460 and 460L are now "real" time cars.

#2 of 877 "Touring Package" Only for LS460L - See "Wear" Disclaimers by slexy1

Nov 03, 2006 (3:22 pm)

I still love my LS 430 EuroSport edition that was an option for under $200 in 2001. The new Sport Suspension option has more to it, and is $2,985. It is called the "Touring Package", which is ONLY available on the LS 460L (from what the official Lexus website shows): http://www.lexus.com/models/LS/features/pricing.html
 
But, check out the fine print at the bottom of the LS 460L page (link is to the right of the LS 460 just under the photo). See disclaimer #'s 17 & 18. It looks like the 17 & 18 in. tires may get "substantially less than 15,000 miles, the brake pads less than 20,000, and the rotors less than 50,000 miles for the special tires and brakes that come with that "Touring Package". I wonder how many LS 460L buyers will know or care about the trade off of improved handling and braking for increased maintainence costs?

#3 of 877 Re: "Touring Package" Only for LS460L - See "Wear" Disclaimers [slexy1] by nvbanker

Nov 03, 2006 (6:42 pm)

Replying to: slexy1 (Nov 03, 2006 3:22 pm)
I have 34,000 miles on my 18in tires and they're only about half gone so far.

#4 of 877 LS bigger tires... by excelsior88

Nov 04, 2006 (3:35 am)

On the LS 430 they had a similar disclaimer about tire life being less...

#5 of 877 Re: "Touring Package" Only for LS460L - See "Wear" Disclaimers [nvbanker] by ljflx

Nov 04, 2006 (10:27 am)

Replying to: nvbanker (Nov 03, 2006 6:42 pm)
That's unusual. Most of these tires don't get past 25K miles. I lease with 45-60K 3 year deals so I tend to swap out tires at 25-35K miles. Better to get your money's worth out of new tires (immediate improvement in ride and handling on the new installs) rather than put them on with a few months left in the lease, so faster wear tires are not an issue for me.
 
BTW - Being drawn to all the new gizmos on the car I didn't notice what type of tires Lexus is putting on the car at this early stage. I hope they are Michelins rather than the Dunlops they've favored the last few years. Anyone pay attention to tires on the LS460 and 460L?

#6 of 877 Re: "Touring Package" Only for LS460L - See "Wear" Disclaimers [ljflx] by ikey78

Nov 04, 2006 (11:54 am)

Replying to: ljflx (Nov 04, 2006 10:27 am)
I have seen five new LS's. Four had Dunlop Sport Maxx A1 A/S and one had Bridgestone Turanza.

#7 of 877 Re: "Touring Package" Only for LS460L - See "Wear" Disclaimers [ikey78] by hendjaz

Nov 04, 2006 (12:45 pm)

Replying to: ikey78 (Nov 04, 2006 11:54 am)
The four with the Dunlop A/S were probably regular L versions while the Turanza may have been the Touring version if it was the Turanza summer tire. The Touring L package comes with 19" summer tires rather than A/S.

#8 of 877 Re: "Touring Package" Only for LS460L - See "Wear" Disclaimers [hendjaz] by ikey78

Nov 04, 2006 (3:18 pm)

Replying to: hendjaz (Nov 04, 2006 12:45 pm)
None of the cars I saw had the touring package. The one with the Bridgestone Turanza EL 42 was a 460 SWB. The others with the Dunlops were a mix of SWB and LWB
 
Tirerack lists all of the OEM tires as follows.
 
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/SelectTireSize.jsp?autoMake=Lexus&autoModel=LS460L- - &autoYear=2007&autoModClar=Standard+Model

#9 of 877 Re: LS bigger tires... [excelsior88] by garyh1

Nov 04, 2006 (5:17 pm)

Replying to: excelsior88 (Nov 04, 2006 3:35 am)
On the LS 430 they had a similar disclaimer about tire life being less...
 
Interestingly, I seem to recall that Lexus never changed the footnote on limited tire life when they switched from 18" summer tires option on the 2004 LS to 18" all-season tires on the '05. Although both are low-profile, I believe the all-season tires last significantly longer than the summer tires; but knowing Toyota/Lexus' overly legalistic approach to everything, they probably decided to keep the disclaimer unchanged so nobody could have any possible basis to complain.
 
From the folks who brought you the requirement to press "I Agree" every time you start the car, make the navigation system unusable when moving, put ugly stickers on the visors that can't be removed, etc., etc.

#10 of 877 Re: "Touring Package" Only for LS460L - See "Wear" Disclaimers [ljflx] by nvbanker

Nov 05, 2006 (5:35 pm)

Replying to: ljflx (Nov 04, 2006 10:27 am)
I hope they are Michelins rather than the Dunlops they've favored the last few years. Anyone pay attention to tires on the LS460 and 460L?
 
I'm a Michelin fan - but Consumer Report rated the Dunlops higher, surprisingly. Whatever that means. Price could be a factor with them too.
 
I saw Bridgestones on the new 460 I drove. I don't like that - I'm still bitter over the Firestone/Explorer disaster, and Bridgestone (Firestone's parent) just stonewalled and refused to admit liability until forced too. Why Lexus would buy their tires for their cars is beyond me. Probably were I to buy a new 460 that had Bridgestones on it, I'd demand they switch them to the Dunlops.

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