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2007 Ford Crown Victoria/Mercury Grand Marquis

23 messages,  Last post on Sep 24, 2007 at 8:19 AM

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New Car Buying Suggestions by frank06
Nov 13, 2006 (5:42 am)
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New car buying is so much easier to get the best or close to the best price than buying a used car to me. On a new car, you can go to any dealer selling that make and know you can get just what you want and are not tied to a dealer because you can always order the one you want if he does not have it in stock. On a used car, chances are that only one dealer has exactly what you want in a car. In my two new car buying experiences, after taking plenty of time to make sure of what make and model I want, I get all the information possible about it, then even take time to read the new car owner information at a car dealer to make sure I know all the available options, I have found some salesmen do not know their product as well as they should. I even take time to talk to a dealer's service manager and try to get a feel for how their service department treats customers. I always start at invoice price and negotiate from that point, I also have not traded in a car in buying a new car, but would not indicate that until I had my best price quote and then you find out what a dealer is really giving you as trade in on your old car. I have found that there are dealers that do not belong to the Manufacturer's advertising group and those dealers can usually beat the dealers that do belong. My latest car purchase involved a dealer that did belong and like most other dealers he at first included the $500 plus advertising fee in his price, after serious back ahd forth discussions, that amount dropped to the actual $366 he paid the manufacturer. I never found one dealer that belonged to this advertising group that would agree to eliminate this charge. To me it is his choice to belong and I still do not feel I should have to pay for his cost of doing business decision. The other fee that gets my objections is the DOC, or documentation fee that all dealers add on. This fee is set by the dealer and it ranges from the unconsiounable to outrages in price. I paid, less than $50 on my last purchase, but the original figure was $399, and all this is for is the paperwork in sales contract, and the temporary tag fee. I drive my cars until they are ready for retirement, my previous car is a 94 crown vic and kept it because it has and is such a good car, after 12 years and wanting a newer car with some newer comfort and safety features, buying new makes sense for me, I outdrive the depreciation and trade in factors of buying new versus buying used.
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Re: New Car Buying Suggestions [frank06] by euphonium
Nov 13, 2006 (11:45 am)
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Replying to: frank06 (Nov 13, 2006 5:42 am)

I was with you until the last sentence. When YOU buy new - who takes the first ownership depreciation of up to 25% and how do you figure you outdrive the depreciation? Amortizing the depreciation does not eliminate that first year depreciation, so you still pay more than had you bought one or two years old.
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Re: New Car Buying Suggestions [euphonium] by frank06
Nov 13, 2006 (2:50 pm)
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Replying to: euphonium (Nov 13, 2006 11:45 am)

I can see your reasoning. In my opinion, the large amount of rebates given on the 2006 Mercury Grand Marquis that I bought, $500 inducement voucher from Mercury, plus the $5000 factory to customer rebate, plus the $2500 marketing rebate to the dealer that he agreed to pass on to me to make the sale for a total of $8000 off of invoice more that made up for the depreciation in my opinion. This $8000 would not be part of buying a car a year or two old. Plus there is an advantage for a buyer like me that intends to keeping a car for a long time in being able to know the car has been 'broken in' and maintained since it was brand new.
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Re: 2007 Ford Crown Victoria/Mercury Grand Marquis [euphonium] by hwyhobo
Dec 03, 2006 (8:03 pm)
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Replying to: euphonium (Nov 03, 2006 9:06 am)

Minor improvements over the intial '98. Too bad it took 10 years to come up with this antiquated offering
 
I love this "antiquated" platform. I just wish Ford decided to offer a passthrough between the trunk and the cabin to make it more attractive to the civilian market (as in not just police and taxi).
 
I won't even mention the station wagon version that I would love to see, but Ford seems too protective of their rapidly disappearing profit margins on the SUVs to cannibalize that market by introducing something more useful in this era of high gas prices. Suicidal policy, if you ask me.
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Re: 2007 Ford Crown Victoria/Mercury Grand Marquis [hwyhobo] by euphonium
Dec 03, 2006 (9:02 pm)
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Replying to: hwyhobo (Dec 03, 2006 8:03 pm)

2007 Crown Victoria Country Squire with 300 hp engine will do fine if manufactured.
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Re: 2007 Ford Crown Victoria/Mercury Grand Marquis [euphonium] by hwyhobo
Dec 03, 2006 (10:37 pm)
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Replying to: euphonium (Dec 03, 2006 9:02 pm)

2007 Crown Victoria Country Squire with 300 hp engine will do fine if manufactured.
 
Any potential sarcasm is lost on me . And yes, I would love the above but with the current engine or even a smaller diesel to maintain reasonable fuel efficiency.
 
Country Squire...
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Re: 2007 Ford Crown Victoria/Mercury Grand Marquis [hwyhobo] by euphonium
Dec 04, 2006 (12:58 pm)
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Replying to: hwyhobo (Dec 03, 2006 10:37 pm)

Any potential sarcasm is lost on me
 
Meaningless to me where you detected any sarcasm. Stay in therapy.
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Re: 2007 Ford Crown Victoria/Mercury Grand Marquis [euphonium] by hwyhobo
Dec 04, 2006 (2:34 pm)
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Replying to: euphonium (Dec 04, 2006 12:58 pm)

Meaningless to me where you detected any sarcasm. Stay in therapy.
 
First of all, I have no idea what "meaningless to me where you detected any sarcasm" means. And note, I said "potential". Second of all, what's all this nastiness about therapy? What's your problem? Did you miss the smiley in my post? Some people just have to walk around half-cocked.
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Research help by jcbahr
Dec 19, 2006 (7:31 am)
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I am proposing a bid for a maintenance and installation contract for a local police department. I will be re-wiring their computers. I am looking for any information or direction to find information regarding the electrical schematic for the crown vic interceptor. More specifically the draw and power requirements for the vehicle.
 
Any assistance is greatly appreciated.
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Country Squire by theronrohr
Dec 20, 2006 (5:11 pm)
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What's a country squire? Also when are they going to make a modernised version of this car? I see there will be a new rwd lincoln concept at the Detroit auto show...

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