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Re: Oil [jsylvester] by euphonium
Mar 12, 2006 (10:20 pm)
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Replying to: jsylvester (Mar 12, 2006 5:52 pm)

"Alls well that ends (with a)swill."
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Fuel economy question by fscarano
May 05, 2006 (9:37 am)
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I drive a 2000 Grand Marquis 56-thousand miles. I currently average 24-26 MPG Highway. Tires at 34 PSI Mobil 1 5w-20 synthetic, any other ideas how to squeeze a few more extra MPG?
 
Is Ford's 100.000 mile tune up good should I do sooner?
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Re: Fuel economy question [fscarano] by euphonium
May 05, 2006 (12:36 pm)
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Replying to: fscarano (May 05, 2006 9:37 am)

Weight is a factor. What you are hauling around in the trunk that doesn't need to be there should be removed. That goes for the back seat area as well.
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Re: Fuel economy question [euphonium] by fscarano
May 05, 2006 (6:50 pm)
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Replying to: euphonium (May 05, 2006 12:36 pm)

Trunk 2 soft ball gloves. 2 Motorcraft oil filters. And of course me in the front seat.
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Re: Fuel economy question [fscarano] by turbo301
May 06, 2006 (10:41 am)
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Replying to: fscarano (May 05, 2006 9:37 am)

If you're doing mostly highway driving, up your tire pressure to 37 psi at all corners.
 
I'd say that MPG isn't too bad, though, for a 6 year old car.
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Re: Fuel economy question [turbo301] by fscarano
May 07, 2006 (12:28 pm)
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Replying to: turbo301 (May 06, 2006 10:41 am)

Turbo301,
 
Why 37psi for more fuel economy?
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Re: Fuel economy question [fscarano] by g45
May 08, 2006 (7:14 pm)
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Replying to: fscarano (May 07, 2006 12:28 pm)

More air increases a tire's rolling diameter, hence the amount of travel per tire revolution. This enhances gas mileage.
 
It also mitigates in favor of wearing out the rear tires at their centers. So you had better be sure you are saving more on gas than it is costing you extra for tires.
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Re: Fuel economy question [g45] by bobw3
May 09, 2006 (6:34 am)
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Replying to: g45 (May 08, 2006 7:14 pm)

More air increases a tire's rolling diameter, hence the amount of travel per tire revolution. This enhances gas mileage.
 
That would mean that you could put on larger tires and get better mpg?? I believe the reason for better mpg with increasing tire pressure is that it reduces friction. Just like if you were driving with tires more narrow. Just don't keep the pressure that high if it's snowing, because then you'll want more traction.
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Re: Fuel economy question [bobw3] by g45
May 09, 2006 (3:32 pm)
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Replying to: bobw3 (May 09, 2006 6:34 am)

"That would mean that you could put on larger tires and get better mpg?? I believe the reason for better mpg with increasing tire pressure is that it reduces friction. Just like if you were driving with tires more narrow. Just don't keep the pressure that high if it's snowing, because then you'll want more traction."
 
Excellent analysis. I wish I'd thought of that!
 
First, though, re your tire diameter remark:
 
Yes, of course larger tires will result in better gas mileage because, once again, rolling diameter is increased. This is equivalent to changing to a higher rear-end ratio. Done within the transmission this is called "overdrive". All three approaches yield more forward travel of the vehicle per engine revolution.
 
But your idea is cooler, more subtle, and I agree with it.
 
One can ask, for a fixed final drive ratio, including tire diameter:
 
With which tires will I get better mileage, those absorbing energy through added flex or those flexing less and running "harder"? I agree with you that absorbtion of energy by the softer tires, even when rolling diameters are meticulously held constant, will result in a larger throttle opening at the same vehicle velocity. It's because that lost energy, quite literally, has to come from somewhere. It WILL come from the engine and reduce mileage, just as you pointed out.
 
So it isn't just the rolling diameter which contributes to better mileage, but the reduction in rolling resistance as well, when the tires are run at greater pressure.
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Re: Fuel economy question [g45] by fscarano
May 09, 2006 (5:33 pm)
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Replying to: g45 (May 09, 2006 3:32 pm)


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