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Replying to: mazda_5_ugh (Sep 30, 2009 3:54 am) |
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Replying to: mazda_5_ugh (Sep 29, 2009 2:18 am) I will digress for a moment and relate an experience that I had with Sears - big ticket item (mattress). I had looked at them for over a year - thought long and hard (a good night's sleep is worth it) - found it on sale - told the salesperson that I expected the mattress to be the same as what I had tried - stressed the importance of this etc. Delivered the mattress - they sent the FIRM mattress - totally not was I wanted - slept on it one night - numbness in arms etc. Immediately when back told the salesperson this was the wrong mattress - said they would send the "bed doctor" out. I said No I wanted them to refund my money and get it out. They said No I HAD to sleep on it for 30 days. I said they wouldn't want me in their store after spending 30 days on this bed. I also said (and this is what did it) that I worked in an institution of over 5,000 people who LOVE to hear stories of bad products, be it a mattress or a CAR. 5,000 people tell 10,000 people and I was immediately refunded my money and the bed was gone the next day. I thought about putting a sign on my car "yes the noise is from my Mazda5 and they won't fix it" , I thought about wearing a lab coat at work with a message on the back of it how about "Mazda5?, think again!" or "Mazda5 Doom, Doom". I'm sure others can come up with better ones. I had my rear bushings "fixed" recently, warranty expiring soon, then had the front done (metal on metal noise) - I was told " that should do it"? I seemed to have heard that before. Ever the optimist, I will wait and see. I agree that the vehicle is right for me but if another manufacturer comes up with something similar, my Mazda5 is history, but after the second year of the new vehicle. I had to purchase a vehcile when I bought my Mazda5 so I couldn't wait. I now tell everyone who mentions that they are buying a new car to go to the Forums first. Never mind Phil Edmonston who hasn't written anything negative about this car as far as I can see, nor anyone else in the "car evaluation business" for some odd reason. Just came across this advertising: Stevensons LLP has brought proceedings against Hyundai Motor Corporation for defects in the sub-frame assembly of 1994 through 2004 model year Sonata automobiles. For more information please click here. I didn't copy the Hyundai but found another one against Ford. Below is a settlement against Ford (hmmm Ford-Mazda) http://www.classproceedings.ca/previous%20cases%20ford.htm A class proceeding is a civil law suit where one or more plaintiffs act on behalf of a larger group of persons who have a common interest. Further details about class actions are provided in our Frequently Asked Questions section. It is often important to act quickly to protect and preserve your rights. If you believe you have a potential class action please contact us immediately to review the issues. We can be reached at: Stevensons LLP Attention: Colin Stevenson 144 Front Street West, Suite 400 Toronto, Ontario M5J 2L7 Phone: 416-599-7900 - or - 7501 Keele Street, Suite 200 Vaughan, Ontario L4K 1Y2 Phone: 905-760-2794 E-mail: cstevenson www.stevensonlaw.net All it takes is one person. A media event or investigation is more likely to help if you can get them interested. Consumer Affairs or like organization perhaps. A letter writing campaign - same day mailings? |
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I live in CA (lifornia). Here it takes only 4 times to fix an issue (or just 2 times for a life-threatening issue) to render the vehicle a lemon. No arbitration. Or just more than 30 days in service, non - consecutive. Ford had to give me my money back for one of their vehicles that was damaged by dealer's negligence. When I had trouble with my Mazda CX-7 not driving straight after the first attempt to fix it, I called Mazda CS. The guy on the phone had a somewhat smug attitude. I told him I am on his side and that I was not confident a second attempt at the problem by this dealer would bring good results. That would bring us very close to a lemon status. His tone changed to "very helpful" on the spot. I think everybody should try BBB. They helped me promptly, when Ford refused to talk to me (socialist company with employees that don't care). I think Mazda is in a tight spot. Read their history to see that they barely made it here. Also, I think they made a mistake by bringing this vehicle here. They don't sell it in enough numbers to make it economicaly feazable to deal with an unexpected high number of problems. They don't advertize it at all (MZ5). It looks like the company wishes the product did not exist. What I do not get, is how come these problems did not surface earlier? This vehicle is new (in 06) for this market, but existed for many years in other markets. |
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Replying to: coolmazda5 (Sep 30, 2009 7:31 am)
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Replying to: bobw3 (Oct 02, 2009 8:39 am) I test drove the 06 and I decided not to buy it. It felt that the engine struggled all the time. Accelerating on a freeway ramp took long. It stayed in the 3rd gear a long time and the engine screamed. I test drove the 09 and I can't wait to buy one. It was quieter and it seemed to be at ease. Accelerating on the same ramp was quiet and swift (I was very surprised). |
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Replying to: bobw3 (Oct 02, 2009 8:39 am) |
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Replying to: bobw3 (Oct 02, 2009 8:39 am) One silly example is: my 08 6-CD player has now a pause option, very useful. Another one: the sliding doors now have an extra pillar/door support/stopper on the top corner. Silly, but I'm sure that reduces wear and vibration in the long run... MPG is a little bit better but not drastic change, I guess it was some fine-tuning done. The 08 gets an extra MPG in average (yes, one, but better than nothing Driving dynamics, well they are Mazda and 5MT, enough said. But feel very equal though. Now, note that if you really need TC and DSC as many people have complained, 2010 is the one for you: http://www.mazdausamedia.com/content/2010-mazda5 Alright allright, off-topic, they are gonna come and get us |
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I am having the flexing/thumping noises from my 2007 Mazda 5 now that it's cold. I found the 208 technical bullentin that applies to 2006-2007. Here is the link. I already called my dealer; our Mazda 5 is still under warranty and I'm going to bring this with me to make the process easier. This Tch Bullentin is Called: Subject: NOISE FROM FRONT OR REAR SUSPENSION WHEN PASSING OVER A BUMP OR DRIVING ON UNEVEN ROAD Link: http://www.finishlineperformance.com/pdf/mazda5/bulletin/02-001-08-1918.pdf 13 pages of tech bulletin. Hope this helps my fellow Mazda 5 owners. I like this car, so I hope the noisy suspension can be addressed. Good Driving.....
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Replying to: agb1 (Oct 21, 2009 5:58 pm) |
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My three year warranty has expired, however, prior to it expiring I called Mazda Canada and asked if the extended warranty covered the "existing" bushing issue and I was told NO. So if you are thinking of buying it to cover the costs of replacing the defective bushings you are out of luck. |
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