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Replying to: trishr1 (Apr 13, 2008 7:34 pm) "Did the cruching start recently and therefore they elected to apply the TSB that was issued for the front end? and not apply the previously issued TSB which covered both front and rear? Was your VIN not within range for the first TSB?" The crunching started the first year of purchase, (4/2006). They refused to address the TSB in winter 06 when I noticed the crunch sounds. Basically they could not replicate the sound so it was dismissed. The VIN was not in range, barely, but this was not an issue with repair. One thing I did notice about the TSB repair they performed is the workable hours exceed the time range on the document. They did not present me with before and after alignment specs, so I assume it was not done. Since they submit the work invoice to NA, this may constitute fraud? Well, I am so fed up with the dealers in this area I basically refuse to bring the car to them unless NA enforces directives to them at their cost. I will prepare letters to NA at this point. After the TSB repair the idiot at the desk 'assumed' I was going to perform their 50k service plus flush the brake fluid system, power steering resevoir and cooling system as well as change the air filter, all at a cost of over $900! I said to him I do not need those things and can do some of that work myself if necessary, and mentioned the costs were prohibitive especially at the $95/hr labor rate. When he broke down the charges, $50 for the air filter boiled me (I bought it from Mazda  12 bucks and took me 5 min). Once I refused he said I was 'insulting' them because I entrust my car for warranty work and not regular maintenance! Incredible! This is only one of many issues.... I have a 1994 626 and never had as many issues as I have with the 5. This will be the last Mazda I ever buy. Tks
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Replying to: legend88ls (Apr 14, 2008 7:10 am) Once I am presented with the service report for review (and before they separate the copies) I freely make comments on the service record. I don't think they appreciate it but it doesn't matter to me. Since the last service visit, I won't sign anything until I check out the vehicle to ensure that they did what they are billing for, and I get what I want. Mmmm, sounds like some service centres have been trained by someone to get the response that you did. Perhaps you should escalate things - go to the Service Manager, then General Manager, then the area representative. It is an an eye-opener what you have been through and I would be ticked. I've heard of dissatisifed customers parking their vehicle near the dealership and put signs on it to warn other potential customers. I know one person who crafted a lemon and bolted that to his car with signs. It got their attention. |
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Replying to: mazdatired (Feb 26, 2008 7:48 pm) 
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Replying to: mnorahs (Apr 18, 2008 6:46 pm) I also enjoy my vehicle and after many months of searching and comparing, I decided to purchase this one. Since Mazda had a fairly good rating and made decent vehicles it seemed like a good option. I can deal with problems arising, what I can't deal with is arrogant service desk people and service managers who tend to "blame the customer" for issues with the cars; or use the standard phrase "couldn't duplicate the problem" which seems to be similar to their first reaction to place the fault on the owner. This is particularly difficult to take when I have the TSB in my hand that says this is a known problem. Apparently it is only known to those owners who have to do their own searching to solve a problem, not to those who should know about them - that's why the car manufacturers post them.  Anyways, no Canada does not have Lemon Laws - it has been proposed in the past but it was struck down by one of our larger provinces - perhaps on that had a large number of car dealerships/manufacturers, or there was too much lobbying from them against it? The proposal was recently raised again this time because of faulty or damaged vehicles that were being imported into Canada, and unscrupulous dealers who were not informing unsuspecting car buyers that the cars were damaged or covering up the fact that they were defective. So it may become a law but probably not in my lifetime. I too had a recurring problem (due to an installation of a Mazda item by the service centre) and had reported it 4 times. On my fifth time I called Mazda and gave them an ultimatum - fix it or remove it and refund my money. Their response was we would fix it if the service centre told us what was wrong - take it in again. Good grief why am I doing all the leg work and inconveniencing myself. Why can't they find the problem, report it to Mazda if they authorization, and just fix it. It gets to be all too much. |
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Replying to: legend88ls (Apr 13, 2008 11:15 am)
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Replying to: athenasius (Apr 30, 2008 5:39 pm) |
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| I just got my 5 back from the shop...and the result in the quest of quieting the rear suspension was a fruitful one...finally someone got it right. The problem was bad read bushing on the stabilzer bar and a bad left rear shock. Now I have to wait for the cold weather to test it...but I think that it does feel better now and at least it does not sound like a squeeky old mattress. | |
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Replying to: mnorahs (Apr 18, 2008 6:46 pm) Anyway, back to Mazda5,at 2.5K there was engine light on, so I had to waste my time to take it for check-up. Some sensor went bad, they replaced it. Then winter came and at freezing temps all these cracking noises came from rear suspension. After a few miles these noises would go away, but problem remained for all these cold days. Now, at 9.5K, I noticed really bad noise at the rear left. Went back to dealership, technician told me that it was very common problem. The rear left shock was replaced. This shock has oil, so I think it freezes during cold temps, and that's where the noise is coming from. I'll see what will happend next winter. I bet cracking noise will be there!! Do you want a bet?? This must be a bad design issue. So it doesn' t matter how many times this part will be replaced, the problem will remain! I'm just as frustrated and disappointed as any of you experiencing all these problems! How a brand new car can have so many issues in the first place, especially after a few years of production! I think the best way to have Mazda to issue a recall for all Mazda5 to replace faulty shocks is for each one of us placing these comments here on Edmunds, is to file a complaint at NHTSA website (it will take a few minutes to file, it is very simple). According to this organization, they don't wait for a number of complaints to pile up, they look into the problem right away, and if there is safety related issue (and it actually is!!!!) they will force car manufacturer to issue a recall and to replace the faulty part! Lastly, I'll wait another year, and if there will be one more problem with this Mazda5, I'll get rid of it and will never buy any other Mazda again!!! Stick with Honda!!!
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Replying to: kukareka1 (Jun 08, 2008 4:54 pm) |
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