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Re: Rear Crunch [jeff39] by trishr1
Jan 21, 2008 (5:50 pm)
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Replying to: jeff39 (Jan 21, 2008 4:59 pm)

Jeff39 - have you had any dealings with the APA in Ontario? I did have the opportunity to speak to the head fellow awhile ago and he had not heard of this problem with the Mazda5 - it wouldn't be broadcast by Mazda that's for sure. It would be very interesting to hear what the Automobile Protection Association had to say about this ongoing problem.
It is truly a very strange situation to have some vehicles fixed without any recurrence of the crunch, and others to have the same problem come back time and again? What does Mazda Canada or Mazda USA which controls Mazda Canada have to say about this? I think they should be forced to extend all affected vehicles' warranties (in an expression of good faith to customers and an effort to maintain their credibility.
I have a survey to complete and return to Mazda Canada after my last servicing - I am going to pose this to them I will not complete the survey online, I want a record of this communication.
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Re: Rear Crunch [trishr1] by jeff39
Jan 21, 2008 (7:24 pm)
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Replying to: trishr1 (Jan 21, 2008 5:50 pm)

I've let ours slide for quite a while now... I guess after a bit you just learn to live with it. I haven't spoken to anyone but Windsor Mazda and the dealer just outside of Chatham, both in Southern Ontario.
I'm going to get started again... we coughed up for an extended warranty (first time for everything). Thanks for your comments.
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Re: Seemingly, the Crunch is GONE in 08's!!!` [skiff0001] by trishr1
Jan 24, 2008 (8:21 am)
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Replying to: skiff0001 (Jan 19, 2008 7:24 pm)

Skiff01 - we may have someone here in the city who can fix our problem - stay tuned - he fixed the Mazda P3 bushing problem which has plagued that model since 2001 - 2002 onwards - most posts were on another Mazda Forum website. Since this site does not offer Private messaging, I will send you this fellow's website once I have confirmed he can fix ours as well.
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Re: Rear Crunch [jeff39] by trishr1
Feb 07, 2008 (7:33 pm)
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Replying to: jeff39 (Jan 21, 2008 7:24 pm)

I have posted my last fix below and suggest that you might want to look at your invoice/service report to see if any of the bushings match the 156D and 156C - feel free to post your fixes. Currently I am almost 60 days without a crunch (fingers, toes and anything else is crossed)
R0802BRX R&R Rear Stab links
2 C243-28-156D Bush, Stabi
XXB427R1 R&R Front Stabilizer Bushings
2 CC29-34-156C Bush, Stabi
#129 of 220
Re: Ugly Suspension Noise When Cold [nissmazlover] by grasma
Feb 10, 2008 (9:41 am)
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Replying to: nissmazlover (Feb 23, 2006 11:13 am)

Vehicle is a 2007 Mazda 5. Location is in Sioux City, IA. Winters can be very cold. Suspension starts it's chattering when the temp falls below 25 degrees. Dealer replaced front rubber bushings on sway bar in March 2007. Noise was worse this winter. Dealer contacted factory engineers, again. Seems as though certain VIN series ALL have a concern, BUT unless you live in a cold climate and complain, you won't receive help. Dealer replace Lower Front Control arms, front sway bar bushings, and rear bushings (4 of them in the back). Colder than ---- out there today, and there is still LOTS of noise coming from the front. Next call will be to the factory,or the Iowa Lemon law may come into effect. I did sell cars for a few years, so don't let the dealership Bull you with stories. Do your research and then go after the dealership...
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Re: Rear Crunch [trishr1] by grasma
Feb 10, 2008 (9:44 am)
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Replying to: trishr1 (Feb 07, 2008 7:33 pm)

Would you mind sending the last eight of the VIN so that I can take the info to the local dealer?
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Re: Rear Crunch [grasma] by riproy
Feb 11, 2008 (1:17 pm)
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Replying to: grasma (Feb 10, 2008 9:44 am)

This is a good idea. Can everybody experiencing suspension noise on their Mazda5 (06s, 07s, and even 08s) please list their VINs. We need to get an idea of how large this problem is. Mazda Canada has been very unhelpful to me (suggesting that we should expect noise from suspensions of new cars) whereas dealerships have been more helpful but in the end the fixes haven't worked. Individually we don't have much clout, but together maybe we can create some noise besides the stuff coming from our suspensions.
I'll start:
2006 Mazda5 GT
VIN JM1CR293560126200
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Re: Ugly Suspension Noise When Cold [grasma] by trishr1
Feb 11, 2008 (8:13 pm)
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Replying to: grasma (Feb 10, 2008 9:41 am)

Grasma - can you post your replacement parts. What is important is the "letter" that comes after the bushing part number, such as XX-X125C or XX-X126D. The later the letter, the newer the replacement.
It might help to explain why yours (and others) are still crunching and it might give you more assistance is getting the problem under control if they are using the earlier versions of the "defective" bushings.
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Re: Ugly Suspension Noise When Cold [trishr1] by mazdatired
Feb 26, 2008 (7:48 pm)
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Replying to: trishr1 (Feb 11, 2008 8:13 pm)

trishr1(and all others) I live in southern Wisconsin and have owned my Mazda5 (2006) since 1/16/2006. I do not believe that there is a fix to the crunching, knocking, squeaking, and general suspension noises with these cars! I am speaking from experience. My car has been in to the dealer on six occasions for the mysterious noises since 3000 miles and they still don't have it right. They have lubed sway bars, replaced a rear damper and coil, changed bushings twice (156C), changed both lower control arms, and some other "hocus pocus" stuff. But the noise is STILL there. The last time in they found the stud that holds the the right damper had failed. The body shop had to burn it out and weld in a new stud, but "it's not a big deal" they say.
 
Mazda does not seem very responsive and anyone who tells you that its not a big deal is lying. Your control arms and bushings are an important part in keeping your tires properly on the road. If they are not functioning properly how could you be getting the right ride. If they are binding in the cold then they can't act like springs, which is what they are supposed to do. How can bolts fail after only 28k miles? I no longer let my children ride in this car since I do not feel it is safe. What will break next?
 
By the way I have also had the lurching problem between first and second gear. They did a recalibration of the powertrain control module, helped a little. I have also had an ABS sensor cord short out as well.
 
I am desperately trying to get out of this nightmare but am not getting anywhere fast. I hate to share this bad news but I feel that I should let others know that they may have to look for other issues on their cars for the sake of safety!
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Re: Ugly Suspension Noise When Cold [mazdatired] by kivo
Feb 27, 2008 (6:49 am)
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Replying to: mazdatired (Feb 26, 2008 7:48 pm)

I am interested in getting a 2008. Do you know if these noises have been fixed?

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