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Re: Another chapter of suspension saga [riproy] by trishr1
Dec 18, 2007 (2:32 pm)
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Replying to: riproy (Dec 18, 2007 9:58 am)

Great to hear that perhaps this is the last time that you may need a fix - sounds like a bunch of junkies (Not).
I took mine in today for an oil change - a fix for the intermittent remote starter problem (yes there is a fix for that too), and "front" bushing replacements again (second time). The Service Manager had said a few weeks ago that they could only do the front bushings (but at that time the noise was from the rear only of my vehicle) so I called Mazda Canada to lodge a complaint about the rear noise. This must have been duly noted, because they replaced both the front and rear bushings today
I noticed no noise on the short ride home, HOWEVER, there is a note of caution, it is mild out today, -5C, so this is not a true test, but it was nice to hear nothing but road noise .
Some people ,on other forums, can't really understand why there is such a fuss about a little squeak here and there. Those who complain about the "crunching noise" may have higher expectations or standards.
Anyway, I'm with you, and will cross anything that will help make it a permanent fix.
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Re: Another chapter of suspension saga [riproy] by mdchachi
Dec 18, 2007 (2:45 pm)
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Replying to: riproy (Dec 18, 2007 9:58 am)

I'm getting the crunch too but it disappears quickly after driving a bit. By the time I'd get to the dealer, the noise would be gone. Are the dealers receptive to this issue or do they need to hear it before doing anything?
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Re: Another chapter of suspension saga [mdchachi] by trishr1
Dec 18, 2007 (6:09 pm)
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Replying to: mdchachi (Dec 18, 2007 2:45 pm)

I would take it to the dealership and tell them you are having a problem under these circumstances - best to write it out otherwise it's open to anyone's interpretation of the problem.
Are you in a cool climate or cold climate? A colder climate might predict a more sustained crunch. Initially mine would crunch until it warmed up, but later on it crunched all the time.
What year of vehicle - 2007 or 2008?
 
Out of curiosity to those with squeaky, crunching vehicles regardless of model year - anyone's VIN start with "JP"?
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Re: Another chapter of suspension saga [trishr1] by mdchachi
Dec 19, 2007 (7:48 am)
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Replying to: trishr1 (Dec 18, 2007 6:09 pm)

I'm in SE Michigan so cold but not extremely cold. It doesn't seem to happen unless the temperature is well below freezing.
 
Mine is a 2006. The previous owner said he did have some warranty work done regarding this issue but obviously it didn't take care of the problem.
 
I'll check my VIN later. What does "JP" mean? I believe all Mazda 5's are made in Japan so if that's what it means, they should all have it.
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Re: Another chapter of suspension saga [mdchachi] by coolmazda5
Dec 19, 2007 (10:00 am)
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Replying to: mdchachi (Dec 19, 2007 7:48 am)

I own an 06 and an 08. Both VINs start with JM1CR (JM1CRXXXXXX...)
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Re: Another chapter of suspension saga [mdchachi] by trishr1
Dec 19, 2007 (7:42 pm)
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Replying to: mdchachi (Dec 19, 2007 7:48 am)

Sorry, my mistake, my VIN starts with JM1 not JP.
 
"The original TSB number 02-007/06 covers vehicles with VINs lower than JM1 CR **** ** 111238 (before Nov 1, 2005) for stabilizer bushings fix and VINs lower than JM1 CR **** ** 120197 before Jan 27 2006 for the lower arm fix. "
 
I was just wondering if all of the affected vehicles might have come from a specific vehicle type or manufacturing division.
 
What a VIN means article.
The first character in the WMI sequence represents the country where the vehicle was manufactured. Countries like the United States (1 or 4), Canada (2) and Mexico (3) are represented by numbers while other countries such as Germany (W), Italy (Z) and Japan (J) are represented by letters.
The second character refers to the manufacturer. The characters can be either letters or numbers. For example: Jaguar (A), Dodge (B), Chrysler (C), Jeep (J), Buick (4), Cadillac (6) or Saturn (8).
The third character represents the vehicle type or manufacturing division.
Vehicle Description Section (VDS) and Check Digit
The vehicle description section consists of five characters (the 4th to 8th characters) which identify everything from the body style, engine type, and braking system to model, series, restraint system, etc. The 9th character is a VIN accuracy check digit which verifies the previous VIN numbers. It is determined by carrying out a mathematical computation developed by the Department of Transportation (DOT).
Vehicle Identification Section (VIS)
The vehicle identification section includes the last eight characters in the VIN number. The numbers identify the model year (10th character) and the assembly plant for the vehicle (11th character). A number or letter may represent the model year. For example: 1998 (W), 2000 (Y), 2007 (7) or 2008 (8).
The 12th to 17th characters are the actual serial number of the vehicle—these last 6 digits make the vehicle unique (think of DNA). It can also help to identify whether the vehicle was the first, the hundredth, or the last vehicle off the manufacturer’s assembly line. This is valuable information for collectors.
 
Somewhere I read on a post perhaps or elsewhere that the bushings they had used were a plastic material, but the service tech said they were rubber which is the opposite if what I read and the reason for the problems. Does anyone else recall what the defective bushings were made of?
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Seemingly, the Crunch is GONE in 08's!!!` by nissmazlover
Jan 04, 2008 (11:49 am)
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OK, so I got the new 08 Mazda 5 Grand Touring, have been experiencing and driving below freezing temps here in NYC and I have not heard ONE crunch from the new 5! I don't know if it's because it's so new and if the noise will rear its ugly head later, but, for now, I am enjoying a very quiet, composed, refined and NON-CRUNCHING suspension. Just thought I would report that to you guys. Seems as though Mazda has fixed the problem.
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Re: Seemingly, the Crunch is GONE in 08's!!!` [nissmazlover] by trishr1
Jan 04, 2008 (3:29 pm)
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Replying to: nissmazlover (Jan 04, 2008 11:49 am)

Sounds like they have things under control - for some.
I did take mine back in for the front bushings; however, they also replaced the rear ones as well because I had registered a complaint.
The outcome - no CRUNCH - not even at -25C. One of the front desk people said that the reason for the initial problem was the fact that the "rubber" bushings get cold and turn hard and therefore there is insufficient cushioing effect.
I found that "interesting" because I had read way back that the bushings they chose for this vehicle were "not rubber" but some plastic material which would not stand up in colder climates, hence the squeaking and crunching problems.
I'll take what I can get but I am concerned over the long term how things will pan out after the warranty expires?
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Re: Seemingly, the Crunch is GONE in 08's!!!` [trishr1] by skiff0001
Jan 19, 2008 (7:24 pm)
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Replying to: trishr1 (Jan 04, 2008 3:29 pm)

I purchased a new Mazda 5 in August '07, and at about 5800 km (when the weather started getting really cold here in Winnipeg- mid Nov.) I started to get the loud crunch from both front and rear when I hit even the slightest bump in the road. Fearing a safety problem, and upset because this is my first Mazda, I contacted the dealer. I was reassured however, by the service rep who knew exactly what the problem was, saying that it was a problem with all Mazda 5's, and made an appointment for replacement of the front and rear stabilizer bar bushings. I had to wait over the Xmas period until January 7, '08 for them to get the bushings in, apparently there was a temporary shortage of the parts. With the replacement of the bushings the vehicle is now totally free of the "crunch", despite temps approaching -30°C. and I hope it stays that way. Thanks to all who posted on this problem, particularly trishr1, your overall input answered a lot of my questions.
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Re: Seemingly, the Crunch is GONE in 08's!!!` [skiff0001] by trishr1
Jan 19, 2008 (9:06 pm)
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Replying to: skiff0001 (Jan 19, 2008 7:24 pm)

Thanks for the post and glad to hear that your problem has been solved.
I'm happy to report that my second fix, done before the holidays, and applied to both the front and rear bushings has withstood the cold temperatures (-30 C) here in Winnipeg.
This is not the case for all Mazda5 owners unfortunately here and elsewhere, but it should be. Perhaps I will see you around town, but at least I won't hear you coming.

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