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Power doors?
by caseybea
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May 04, 2006 (11:56 am)
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Hi- I'm back. While I'm probably going to end up buying the Sedona, I have a general question as applies to the Sedona/Entourage as well: Is it worth the approximate $1,000 to get the power side doors? I'm a bit nervous about the door motor(s) failing over time. Anyone here used power sliding doors on other (older) vans- how well did they (or not) work for you?
With similar packages, the Sedona EX (add power doors) is almost a dead heat with the Entourage price-wise.
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Re: Power doors? [caseybea]
by vanfor3
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May 04, 2006 (12:24 pm)
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Replying to: caseybea (May 04, 2006 11:56 am)
Maybe I'm just pricing it wrong, but the MSRP of sedona ex with premium entertainment, luxury, and power packages is $31,365 v. Entourage with Ultimate package and crossbars (to make features equal) is $33,640.
Hopefully I've just missed some great features and when I get to see the Entrouage in person I'll find out.
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Re: Power doors? [caseybea]
by mike_belknap
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May 04, 2006 (1:50 pm)
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Replying to: caseybea (May 04, 2006 11:56 am)
My parents owned a very unreliable '93 Pontiac TranSport with a power-sliding door. Problems included multiple occurances of doorlatch failure (related to holding the door in the open position and releasing it once the button was pushed for the door to close).
Regardless, I certainly wouldn't suggest making projections concerning the reliability of the Entourage/Sedona from a single, 14-year-old GM unit. In fact, my parents are planning on purchasing an Entourage next week -- even though the manually-operating doors are light and easy to use, they insist on buying one with the power-sliding doors.
Mike
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Re: Power doors? [caseybea]
by dc_driver
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May 04, 2006 (5:50 pm)
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Replying to: caseybea (May 04, 2006 11:56 am)
Do you have kids? If yes, then the power doors are a necessity. Also, the Kia has an extensive warranty and I can only imagine that the doors are covered up to 5years 60K miles.
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Re: Power doors? [dc_driver]
by backy
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May 04, 2006 (5:57 pm)
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Replying to: dc_driver (May 04, 2006 5:50 pm)
A necessity? My family managed very well with non-power doors through almost 13 years of minivan ownership. Shoot, for almost 8 years we only had one sliding door! But I can see it would be useful if you have young kids, or don't mind paying for the convenience of being able to open a door with a button when carrying groceries etc. My kids are 10, 14, and 17 now and can manage the doors on our minivan just fine.
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Re: Power doors? [backy]
by dc_driver
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May 04, 2006 (6:26 pm)
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Replying to: backy (May 04, 2006 5:57 pm)
Okay, maybe I was exaggerating a little Before we bought our van this past Saturday (an 06 Odyssey EX-L), my wife asked her sister what her favorite feature of owning a minivan was (an 01 Chrysler T&C) and she said matter of factly "the power sliding doors". Granted she has three kids under the age of eight. Having a ninth month old in a car seat, I can tell you that the dual power sliding doors are an awesome convenience and safety feature (the door will not close someone's fingers/hand).
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Re: Power doors? [vanfor3]
by golddog1
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May 05, 2006 (5:53 am)
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Replying to: vanfor3 (May 04, 2006 12:24 pm)
That was my big question when pricing the two vans. Checked out both and determined there is no difference to warrant the $2,300 difference. Hyundai dealer explained that the Entourage is tuned for a better ride and has tighter panel gaps. The later I do not believe one bit since they are manufactured at the same facility. Except for the gauge cluster, which is green lit in the Sedona and electroluminated in the Entourage I cannot see anything else to warrant this price difference.
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Re: Power doors? [golddog1]
by hrngffcr
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May 05, 2006 (6:09 am)
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Replying to: golddog1 (May 05, 2006 5:53 am)
It may not make a difference to you, but it has been pretty well established, based on discussions in different forums, and my conversation with a Hyundai rep at auto show, that the two vans are manufactured at same plant, but on two different lines, with different manufacturing processes. There are some who have indicated that the Entourage may have more insulation, sound deadening, better paint processes, etc. Is that worth the difference in price? I'm trying to make the same decision myself. Between the preference for the Entourage looks and the different manufacturing processes--maybe. It will definitely be a negotiating point.
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Re: Power doors? [hrngffcr]
by caseybea
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May 05, 2006 (6:33 am)
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Replying to: hrngffcr (May 05, 2006 6:09 am)
I don't place a huge amount of faith in things said by representatives at dealers or auto shows. While it may indeed be true, it's not something that can be easily proved. I place more value on hard documentation, printed lists of feature sets, and such. While it certainly may be true that there's those slight improvements listed above, I don't personally believe it's worth two thousand dollars plus. These vans are basically the same- with the same 100K powertrain warranty, which is the absolute biggest selling point for me.
In four years, when I have 80,000 miles on this beast, my only real concern is how to handle a transmission or water pump that failed, and I won't really care about esoteric differences in "paint process". To be honest, since about 1990, not a single vehicle I have owned has ever shown any signs of rust at all.....
However-- I am certainly going to give the Entourage a chance- I have a hard quote for my new Sedona- I'm going to chat with the Hyundai dude today and ask him to make it worthwhile to buy HIS car..
My main opinion on this overall: Whether it's Sedona or Entourage, both are in my opinion really great vans that are priced aggressively, and come with fantastic warranty support. I'm looking forward to owning one, whichever one it turns out to be.
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