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#5 of 44 Re: overirde button has been overrided by us govt. [mdchachi]
by rennybosch
Jun 28, 2007 (4:29 pm)
do you really want to give override ability to a citizenry that can't even spell or type?
Very cute.
#6 of 44 Re: overirde button has been overrided by us govt. [mdchachi]
by nvbanker
Jul 01, 2007 (6:12 pm)
do you really want to give override ability to a citizenry that can't even spell or type?
America is obsessed with preventing idiots from hurting themselves, or someone else. From Helmet laws to seat belt laws to cell phone laws - we do our damndest to keep you safe (and the manufacturer insulated from litigation). Which is one reason why we made no private aircraft in America for a couple of decades. Seems, the lawyers think they should be made to never wear out. Ridiculous.
Yet - you can still smoke legal,highly addictive poisonous leaves. You can still drink highly intoxicating beverages and drive your car (with your seat belt on, your airbags on standby, and your cell phone off).
Yes, I want an override. In any other country but this one, you can operate your system while in motion, or your co-pilot can do it, if you're smart. You can't make this world idiot proof. Idiots are going to drive. Get over it.
#7 of 44 Re: overirde button has been overrided by us govt. [nvbanker]
by dgmcdermott
Jul 02, 2007 (8:50 am)
well stated. I too think this is an absurd Lexus feature
#8 of 44 Re: overirde button has been overrided by us govt. [nvbanker]
by mdchachi
Jul 02, 2007 (1:23 pm)
> You can still drink highly intoxicating beverages and drive your car
What kinds of beverages are you talking about?
#9 of 44 Re: overirde button has been overrided by us govt. [mdchachi]
by pat
Jul 02, 2007 (3:12 pm)
I think the point nvbanker is making is that nothing physically restricts someone who has been drinking alcohol from operating a motor vehicle, therefore why should there be a physical restriction on the navigation system. I am not saying I agree with this point of view, just telling you what I think he meant. Nvbanker can certainly correct me if I've misunderstood.
#10 of 44 Re: overirde button has been overrided by us govt. [nvbanker]
by atlas7
Jul 02, 2007 (5:48 pm)
The issue with Lexus providing features on their automobiles that are available in other countries, but not in the US, has to do with Toyota's view of the American Legal system. The Toyota Executives are afraid that there will be a tragic accidents and the victims or victims families will sue the manufacturer(Toyota)for an alleged malfunction. Can you blame Toyota? Where else in the world can a knucklehead sue a restaurant because they spilled hot coffee on themselves. Anyone hear the latest, a guy sued a dry cleaner for losing the pants to his suit for $56m. The guy lost, but the case actually went to court. The problem is not Toyota, it's us!
#11 of 44 Re: overirde button has been overrided by us govt. [atlas7]
by nvbanker
Jul 03, 2007 (2:24 pm)
The problem is not Toyota, it's us!
Oh, I agree - it's the Lawyers.
#12 of 44 Re: overirde button has been overrided by us govt. [nvbanker]
by knowspinzone
Jul 04, 2007 (7:22 pm)
Yup, that's how John Edwards made his millions.
#13 of 44 Re: overirde button has been overrided by us govt. [knowspinzone]
by pat
Jul 05, 2007 (6:14 am)
It's how a lot of people made lots of money, but this isn't the right place to get into that.
#14 of 44 LexusOverride.com
by sandy_eggo
Jul 10, 2007 (10:54 am)
Hi All-
I am a Lexus owner that is "mad as hell" that Lexus took away the override without even telling their customers.
I have started Lexus Override as a way to re-establish this nontrivial feature to us, the car owners. Please sign up and be counted so Lexus recognizes how many of us are not going to take this lying down! Your email will be kept confidential.
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