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Civic GX Worth It For High Mileage Commuting?

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Sources of used GX by rogerbohl
Sep 30, 2006 (6:07 pm)
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Replying to: nostrom0 (Sep 30, 2006 4:58 pm)

Try Craigslist, as well.
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Re: Civic GX Worth It For High Mileage Commuting? [jaxs1] by lakewood90712
Sep 30, 2006 (7:54 pm)
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Replying to: jaxs1 (Sep 30, 2006 8:07 am)

In your situation , on a commute like that , I would not advise a gx. And this is coming from a happy gx owner of 4 years , and cng vehicle owner for 6 years and 120,000 miles of cng driving. If you need carpool lane access, find a used Hy-bryd that already has stickers.(The sticker limit for new Hy-brids is used up !).If you don't need carpool access, a gasoline civic, would be a better choice.
Just my 2 cents worth.
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Re: Civic GX Worth It For High Mileage Commuting? [rogerbohl] by bank1avp
Oct 01, 2006 (8:45 am)
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Replying to: rogerbohl (Sep 30, 2006 6:04 pm)

A FMQ2 will suit you better than a PHILL. FMQ2 will pump twice as fast. Plenty of these used on the market for about $3500 same as a PHILL. I drive 150 daily myself in my bi-fuel truck, use my FMQ2 at night and I haven't been to a gasoline station in 2 years.
  
You mentioned every 10 weeks for service. For What? Other than routine fluid changes, I say if it ain't broke to mess with it. Not to mention the GX with sythetic oil in it should last you well over 10k miles, not a chemical engineer by any means, but with as clean as CNG burns only makes sense.
  
If you believe range may be an issue, and it may since a GX will go bone dry shortly after 200 miles depending on how you are driving you can always install an extra tank. I have done this in the past on my GX and for my customers. Adds another 3 GGE to the GX.
  
I've been in the car business for 14 years. Remember regardless of what car you buy there is an accelerate rate all vehicles depreciate within the first 3 years of it's life. I've never bought a new vehicle my entire life and I'm in the car business. After three years the depreciation rate slows substantially and continues year after year.
  
A GX has about a $5500 premium over a LX or EX when new. But say 3-4 years old the difference may only be $1500.
  
Then theres always the question how much your time is worth sitting in traffic. Here in AZ no matter what freeway the HOV lane access cuts any commute in half.
  
Between my wife and I we drive 210 per day. We both refuel from home on our Fuelmakers. While gasoline is $2.25 per gallon we would still save $6600 annually on our fuel costs. At $3.00 per gallon we SAVE $10,400. That's SAVINGS over what we would pay in gasoline. I've got a simple calc spread sheet to help you figure this out, anyone is welcome to it
  
Hope this helps your decision process
  
Murphy
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Re: Civic GX Worth It For High Mileage Commuting? [bank1avp] by schwerno
Oct 09, 2006 (3:22 pm)
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Replying to: bank1avp (Oct 01, 2006 8:45 am)

Extra Tank? Anyone know who/where to get this? I stop to fill up my car every other day, and the even though the home fueling seems awesome, I'm not sure if it is worth all the extra cash. thanks for any help.
 
Jay
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Re: Civic GX Worth It For High Mileage Commuting? [schwerno] by bank1avp
Oct 09, 2006 (4:08 pm)
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Replying to: schwerno (Oct 09, 2006 3:22 pm)

I can install a 3 GGE tank in the trunk for an extra $500 for a new customer purchasing one of my cars. I don't do it on other cars, just for my new customers. Kinda of a hassle to get done. When you purchase an FM 2 or 4 just think of it as you are leasing it, because if you ever sell it you should get 100% of your money back. So it really breaks down like this:
$3500 for a Used FM
$750 to rebuild every 4000 hours or 4000 gallons.
 
So that works out to $.19 cents per gallon plus your cost of CNG from home probably right around $1.25. Then add in the electricty. So for about $1.50 per gallon from home is it worth it?
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Re: Civic GX Worth It For High Mileage Commuting? [bank1avp] by xpacific
Oct 23, 2006 (1:08 pm)
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Replying to: bank1avp (Oct 09, 2006 4:08 pm)

Hello schwerno, please contact me as I am considering an NGV purchase and would like to discuss installing a 3 GGE tank. I will obfiscate my e-mail somewhat to avoid smappmers, but anyway it is {my handle here at CarSpace which begins with an "x"} [at] xmission {dot}com.
 
Thanks!
John
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Re: Civic GX Worth It For High Mileage Commuting? [bank1avp] by snortn
Apr 29, 2007 (9:36 pm)
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Replying to: bank1avp (Oct 01, 2006 8:45 am)

where can you find used fmq-2-36's?
i've been looking in the so cal area, and can't find any.
thanks
jon
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Re: Civic GX Worth It For High Mileage Commuting? [snortn] by bank1avp
Apr 30, 2007 (6:04 am)
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Replying to: snortn (Apr 29, 2007 9:36 pm)

Jon I have 6 used FMQ2's for sale. I am in AZ.
 
and
 
John contact me anytime about a GX with an extra tank 602-331-4700
 
Murphy
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Re: Civic GX Worth It For High Mileage Commuting? [bank1avp] by cliedtke
Aug 18, 2008 (6:53 pm)
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Replying to: bank1avp (Apr 30, 2007 6:04 am)

Murphy -- I am in the market to purchase a Honda GX and FMQ2 or FMQ2.5 (used) as well as getting an extra tank for the GX. Do you still do this? Cal
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Re: Civic GX Worth It For High Mileage Commuting? [bank1avp] by crtr
Sep 06, 2008 (8:12 am)
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Replying to: bank1avp (Apr 30, 2007 6:04 am)

Murphy,
 
I was wondering if you still have any used Fuelmakers? I live in San Diego and could either ship it or consider making the drive (in my turck!).
 
Thanks, Chris (crtrrocketmail.com)

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