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Re: gx repair problem [rst]
by mattod
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Aug 15, 2006 (9:03 am)
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Replying to: rst (Aug 15, 2006 8:59 am)
the gas light is on and the tank is near empty. When I attach the nozzle and turn it pressurizes like normal but no gas will go in. I had a station technician there and he tried several different things and said it had to be a problem with the car.
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Re: gx repair problem [mattod]
by mattod
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Aug 15, 2006 (9:57 am)
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Replying to: mattod (Aug 15, 2006 9:03 am)
they are saying to replace the recpticle first...is this a common repair issue? I had a dodge ram van 96 cng with 150,000 miles and no cng problems, I got rid of it to get a more fuel efficient gx, maybe that was the wrong decision.
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Re: gx repair problem [mattod]
by thatdeonguy
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Aug 15, 2006 (11:16 am)
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Replying to: mattod (Aug 15, 2006 9:57 am)
The refueling receptacle can go bad. The receptacle in my 2001 GX was changed out by the dealer during warranty because the original owner complained of smelling gas. Your's is the first I've heard of not allowing the tank to fill. Keep us advised.
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Re: gx repair problem [mattod]
by londnr
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Aug 15, 2006 (3:37 pm)
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Replying to: mattod (Aug 15, 2006 9:03 am)
There is a company in the Bay area that converts new vehicles to CNG - maybe you could give them a call, if they can't help with your problem then maybe they know someone (other than the dealer) that can.
http://www.baytechcorp.com/
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Re: gx repair problem [mattod]
by altereco
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Aug 15, 2006 (9:27 pm)
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Replying to: mattod (Aug 15, 2006 12:31 am)
Sounds like the tank valve is closed.
maybe because it had a fill valve leak...
Could it be that simple?
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Re: gx repair problem [mattod]
by rogerbohl
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Aug 16, 2006 (5:07 pm)
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Replying to: mattod (Aug 15, 2006 12:31 am)
Try Daytech, in Fairfield, who claims to be certified to work on CNG cars. You can find them on the Internet, or call me for details. Labor rate is $125, but appears highly skilled. They solved one leak for me (''99 GX) but another remains, and I'll need another trip.
R. Bohl
415-751-3447
rhbohl aol.com
San Francisco/Danville
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Re: gx repair problem [altereco]
by mattod
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Aug 17, 2006 (4:06 pm)
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Replying to: altereco (Aug 15, 2006 9:27 pm)
They installed a new recepticle but it did not fill, now they say it needs a new tank $6000 plus the cost of installation!!!!! Any suggestions????
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Re: gx repair problem [mattod]
by tigercng
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Aug 18, 2006 (1:15 am)
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Replying to: mattod (Aug 17, 2006 4:06 pm)
Yes !!!
Please open manual tank valve.
It's placed directly on your CNG tank.
I don't know what exactly Honda has, but
there is an examples of manual tank valves:
http://www.tulsagastech.com/formman.html (pic. 5, 13, 26)
http://www.autogasitalia.it/db/prodotto.asp?lan=eng&id=923
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Re: gx repair problem [tigercng]
by tigercng
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Aug 18, 2006 (1:30 am)
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Replying to: tigercng (Aug 18, 2006 1:15 am)
Another one:
http://www.teleflexgfi.com/cng_manual_cylinder_valve.php
http://www.valvulashoffmann.com/prod01_eng.html
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Re: gx repair problem
by thatdeonguy
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Aug 18, 2006 (8:32 am)
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Replying to: tigercng (Aug 18, 2006 1:15 am)
I have been looking at the Honda GX supplemental manual regarding the fuel system and your problem not being able to refuel your car. My manual covers 2001-2004 GX not your 1999 GX. The only manual shutoff on the GX isolates the tank from the engine. There is NO shutoff on the tank itself. The fuel goes into the refueling receptacle and then into the "Fuel Joint Block". The "Fuel Joint Block" sits right in front of the tank (behind the rear seat) and has several sensors in it "Fuel tank pressure" "Fuel tank temperature" but NO Valves. From the "Fuel Joint Block" the fuel is piped to the cng tank. There is a "Fuel Tank Internal Solenoid valve" inside the tank. That valve supply's the car with fuel when you turn on the ignition on. I didn't think it could keep the tank from being fueled because your ignition is off when refueling. But fixing the "Fuel Tank Internal Solenoid valve" means replacing the tank. $$$ OUCH
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