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Re: CNG KIT NEEDED for (2002 5.2L Dodge 1500 Van) [andrewrmarton]
by m196
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May 29, 2008 (11:40 am)
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Replying to: andrewrmarton (May 27, 2008 12:39 pm)
Regarding non EPA/CARB certified kits, some folks keep calling them illegal. Certainly i can see them being illegal in states that required CARB, but what about states that do not? Are they still illegal on the basis of EPA requirements alone? Is there a federal law that requires EPA certified kits in all 50 states?
Thanks...
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CNG KIT NEEDED for . . .
by mostlyharmless
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May 30, 2008 (7:49 am)
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We bought a former fleet bi-fuel Cavalier and it's great. CNG is 90.9 cents a gallon here in Oklahoma. We want another CNG vehicle but I want to pick my own and convert it. I would also like to know if it's "illegal" to convert one with a non-EPA/CARB certified kit in Oklahoma. I have thought about taking it to Canada and having it converted, then driving it back. Our insurance agent says you can legally buy a car in Canada and drive it here so it might be possible. Other countries have kits for almost any vehicle you can imagine. The EPA needs to BACK OFF!!
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How can I find out...
by bottgers
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Jun 11, 2008 (1:24 pm)
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....if my car (1999 Corolla) can be converted to run on CNG and how much it would cost?
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- #29 of 61
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Re: How can I find out... [bottgers]
by bottgers
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Jun 12, 2008 (8:24 am)
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Replying to: bottgers (Jun 11, 2008 1:24 pm)
I see nothing has changed in this forum. I still get no replies when I post a message :0(
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Re: How can I find out... [bottgers]
by mostlyharmless
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Jun 12, 2008 (9:58 am)
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Replying to: bottgers (Jun 12, 2008 8:24 am)
The only reply I can give you is the one I received from a CNG Conversion shop in Tulsa, OK. I was told there were no kits for Hondas or Toyotas and probably would never be in the U.S. Our problem here is that the EPA is preventing new kits being brought to market. They require each kit for each vehicle be installed on the vehicle and the emissions checked, then the vehicle has to be run for 100,000 miles and the emissions checked again, before they will allow it to be sold and installed in the U.S. It is so expensive to get the kits to market that most manufacturers opt to only market the ones they are sure will sell, i.e., the ones that fit truck and vans for fleets. Other countries have kits for almost every vehicle built but not the U.S.
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- #31 of 61
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Re: How can I find out... [mostlyharmless]
by bottgers
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Jun 12, 2008 (3:32 pm)
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Replying to: mostlyharmless (Jun 12, 2008 9:58 am)
Why is the EPA being so strict about these kits? Do they realize the "N" in CNG stands for "natural" gas and it burns so cleanly you could run the car in the house with no ill health effects? The governement is always so damn quick to stand in the way of progress when it comes to finding less expensive forms of energy.
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It's almost as though....
by bottgers
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Jun 13, 2008 (10:36 am)
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....the EPA thinks the way to justify their existance is by being a huge PITA!
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Who's "Representing" Us?
by mostlyharmless
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Jun 13, 2008 (10:51 am)
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We need to rise up and tell our Government what we want instead of letting them dictate to us what is good for us. We need to make clear to Congress that they are "representatives" not "leaders"!
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Re: CNG KIT NEEDED for . . . [mostlyharmless]
by bd3
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Jun 14, 2008 (11:28 am)
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Replying to: mostlyharmless (May 30, 2008 7:49 am)
Where did you find the fleet car? That seems to be about the only way to get a CNG car in the US, so I'm trying to find places that sell them.
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Re: CNG KIT NEEDED for . . . [bd3]
by mostlyharmless
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Jun 14, 2008 (1:48 pm)
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Replying to: bd3 (Jun 14, 2008 11:28 am)
Morris Auto in Morris, OK. They have a website, www.gocng.com. The get them from various Government agencies; I believe ours was owned by the EPA in Virginia. There is also a place in Tulsa that does the conversions but, again, the kits are very limited and they have a waiting list. We absolutely adore ours; especially now that gas is near $4 a gallon here. We get 25 miles per gallon whether we're on gasoline or cng so I figure we are getting about 100 miles for the cost of one gallon of gasoline. How can we get across to Ford and GM that we want more of these?? We have very limited fill sites here but it's my understanding that Chesapeake Energy is getting ready to put in a bunch more within the next year. 
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