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Finding A Place To Fill Up the Honda Civic GX

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refueling by jhoward1968
Apr 26, 2005 (12:14 pm)
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I'm going to buy a 2000 Civic GX with in the next week. I have found the location of various CNG stations, but some seem to necessitate access cards. I can't seem to find anything about this online. Can anyone lend some info? Any other suggestions or advice for a new owner? Thank you! jen
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Re: refueling [jhoward1968] by gx222
Apr 28, 2005 (8:53 pm)
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Replying to: jhoward1968 (Apr 26, 2005 1:14 pm)

The stations I go to don't have the access cards you describe. Before you buy, make sure you have enough stations nearby and in the areas where you normally drive. The range on these cars isn't very good so you'll be filling up a lot and you will need to know the locations of the stations. And don't run the tank too low, I went to a station the other day and it was broken, so I had to find another one which was 12 miles away.
 
One word of advice is to be careful at these stations, they are usually unattended, off the beaten path, (on side streets, etc.), and often you'll be the only one there, especially at night. If you are at some of these stations at night, be aware of your surroundings!
 
The other thing to watch out for is sometimes you might pull up behind a bus or trash truck being filled up and you'll have to wait for 10 minutes before you can fill up (making you late for wherever you are trying to go.)
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Re: refueling [jhoward1968] by nostrom0
Apr 28, 2005 (11:12 pm)
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Replying to: jhoward1968 (Apr 26, 2005 1:14 pm)

Check out www.cleancarmaps.com. They have descriptions of the sites and if there are restrictions for access. Some are only open during business hours (usually private stations).
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Re: refueling [gx222] by nostrom0
Apr 29, 2005 (2:49 pm)
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Replying to: gx222 (Apr 28, 2005 9:53 pm)

The Clean Energy station I use near LAX has 8 pumps at 2 different islands. I never have to wait to fill up. It's well lit and heavily trafficked.
 
By far the cheapest and most convenient method of refueling is using the Phill device at home. No wasted time going to the gas station.
I consider this convenience one of the greatest assests of the Civic GX.
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Re: refueling by gx222
Apr 29, 2005 (8:35 pm)
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Replying to: nostrom0 (Apr 29, 2005 3:49 pm)

Half of those pumps at LAX are only the 3000psi pumps though. Depending what time of day you go, even LAX might have all 4 of the 3600 pumps in use by Super Shuttle vans, United Airlines buses and taxi cabs. A lot of the other Clean Energy stations only have one 3600psi pump and if you are stuck behind a school bus, might as well get comfortable, it'll be a wait.
 
The LAX station is the exception to the heavily trafficked issue, being right on Aviation Blvd. Many other stations are in out-of-the-way areas and, at night, can be like ghost towns, or are in areas you don't even want to be in at night, especially alone.
 
The LAX fueling station brings up another issue with CNG stations, that is the lack of restroom facilities. Most have none, but LAX has one of those plastic port-a-pottys...ugh.
 
Just some issues to consider regarding the CNG experience and the need to plan out your fueling stops in advance.
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Re: refueling [nostrom0] by gagrice
Apr 30, 2005 (1:52 pm)
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Replying to: nostrom0 (Apr 29, 2005 3:49 pm)

Have you installed a Phill unit in your garage? If so was it a big deal? How can they possibly tax your fuel with that system? I think I read that it comes out to about 60 cents per equivalent gallon of unleaded regular. That would make it a great commuter car.
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SoCalGas Card? by ravenflight
May 18, 2005 (9:04 am)
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I am very interested in purchasing a GX, especially since there is a refueling station a couple blocks from my work. I have a few concerns though. Most of the stations listed in the San Fernando Valley seem to require a SoCalGas Card to purchase gas even though they are listed as "Public Access". I tried calling the 800 number to the Southern California Gas Co and the rep I spoke to didn't even know that they had CNG refueling stations- much less how to get one of these payment cards. Does anyone have any experience using these stations and how they managed to get one of these payment cards? Also what price per "gallon" could I expect in the Glendale area? Shouldn't the Gas Company be promoting this technology- or at least training their employees that it exists?
 
Will the 2006 models have any significant upgrades? I was very diasappointed looking over the GX brochure in that Honda charges almost a thousand dollars more for the GX versus the Hybrid, but they don't provide any of the extras that are standard on the Hybrid- ie Leather trimmed seats, Electronic Brake Distribution, 4 speakers instead of 2, Hybrid exclusive color, blue lit instrument panel... Seems odd that they would charge more for the GX over the Hybrid- which has a much more complex drivetrain and very expensive batteries and motors, and then not even offer the same features. Will Honda get serious with the GX in 2006 by either reducing the price or giving it exclusive features like their other premium priced Hybrid?
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Re: SoCalGas Card? [ravenflight] by nostrom0
May 18, 2005 (12:49 pm)
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Replying to: ravenflight (May 18, 2005 9:04 am)

The City of Glendale has a fuel station available to the public. It does require a SoCalGas Card. You can apply for one with Bill Torres, (213) 244-5215. The prices per GGE vary quite a bit depending on the station. The most expensive and most consumer-friendly seem to be the Clean Energy stations. Last time I philled up over at LAX it cost $2.14 per GGE. Down in Long Beach at a SoCalGas station it was $1.59. I haven't used the station over in Glendale so I don't know what the price is over there.
 
I don't know what the plans for the next model year are, but I think the GX is a better vehicle than the HX. Natural gas is cheaper than gasoline, especially when it's from your home gas line. I also think home refueling is such a huge convenience they should make a bigger point about it when marketing the GX. The last time I bought gas at Costco I waited in line for 20 minutes. Also, the emissions from the GX are lower than from the HX, and it's a less complicated vehicle. I would have liked leather seats too, but I'm very happy about the political statement I'm making by not buying gasoline anymore.
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cross country trips by freedml
Feb 26, 2006 (6:28 am)
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cross-country trips:
 
With the new station in Barstow trips to Las Vegas are now practical IF you have a Haycock Petroleum card to buy gas for the return trip. Someone told me he did it from the Victorville station before Barstow existed in a GX. I signed up for AAAPlus just in case!
 
And there are a number of stations along 99 which would make a trip to the Bay Area or Sacramento possible, just not on the 5. Also a number of stations along 101 but I haven't checked that out carefully.

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