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Honda Insight, Electrical, Hybrid Cars, Hatchback
#98 of 125 Re: P1447 code in error? [gecko3]
Oct 14, 2010 (12:14 pm)
I have a 2002 Insight. CMA light came on, drove it awhile, during this time I got the same mileage as before the light came on. After a short time the car stopped, had it towed to Honda West, Las Vegas. It was confirmed that your code along with another was on and that the battery assembly and a control unit needed replacing.
Honda replaced the battery assembly and control unit at no cost to me. I believe the bill was in excess of $8,000.00 (paid by Honda)
With the new battery assembly in my initial mileage was 37 MPG, scary, that is the same mileage I obtained when using only gas, Then, for some reason, the mileage started to increase, now I'm up to 48.8 and feeling better.
When this situation came about I called Honda regarding the codes, the warranty and replacement. They responded that I should find a dealer of my choice. When doing this I looked for a dealer that would offer a free rental. That ended up being Honda West.
This experience has resulted in the best treatment I've had with a dealer and Company (Honda).
#99 of 125 Re: P1447 code in error? [Ogre_GEV]
Oct 14, 2010 (4:29 pm)
Thanks! My mileage did seem to drop about 2 years ago, so what you're saying makes sense. So will I have any warning before the eventual stranding? Will my mileage go down drastically or the battery stop recharging -- or could I get in the car tomorrow and it wouldn't start?
Oct 25, 2010 (9:10 am)
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Nov 23, 2010 (12:39 pm)
On my 2002 Insight since the battery replacement the mileage has decreased to 42 mpg. What I'm afraid what has happened is that when the dealer replaced the battery a new battery pack was installed ( the newer technology) resulting in the lower mileage recorded on more recent models. I was unaware that this was being done, in fact somewhere in the message board a comment was made alerting users to be aware not to let this happen. please comment on this.
#102 of 125 Re: P1447 code in error? [ronwitman]
Nov 23, 2010 (7:03 pm)
>With the new battery assembly in my initial mileage was 37 MPG, scary, that is the same mileage I obtained when using only gas,
That's normal. The IMA system doesn't increase gas mileage, it make the efficient but anemic engine feel like a normal engine while still retaining it's gas sipping qualities.
#103 of 125 Re: P1447 code in error? [gecko3]
Nov 23, 2010 (7:08 pm)
If the battery light comes on (the "alternator" light), get under the hood and unplug the 12V battery for 30 seconds and then reconnect it and go straight home. This will reset the system and you should have enough time to get home before the error comes back.
This will only work once or twice so don't think you can continue to drive the car.
#104 of 125 Re: Ron Witman [ronwitman]
Nov 23, 2010 (7:15 pm)
The latest software (A01/070) is attempting to lengthen the life of the battery. It does this by being more liberal with assist when the battery is more than half full and much more aggressive with regen (killing your mileage) when less than half full. In addition, it will periodically perform a balancing charge by deciding to fill the battery completely, even when trying to climb a hill.
Once the car is out of warranty, you can simply replace the BCM and MCM with an older set and restore the original behavior.
Nov 24, 2010 (2:00 pm)
What do you mean OUT OF WARRANTY? With this new battery I get an additional 150,000 miles. Don't think I'll be around that long.
#106 of 125 Re: Ron Witman [ronwitman]
Nov 24, 2010 (2:40 pm)
Your new battery has no warranty at all. Your CAR has a 150,000 mile warranty. The battery will be replaced as often as necessary until the CAR's warranty is up.
If you had purchased the battery, it would come with it's own 3 year 36,000 mile warranty.
#107 of 125 Limp-in mode
Jan 17, 2011 (6:18 pm)
What is limp-in mode?