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#80 of 125 8/80 or 10/150K warranty on battery pack
Mar 03, 2010 (11:41 am)
I have 2000 manual transmission Insight purchased Dec 2000. Was recently advised I needed new battery pack and 2 controllers. Was told warranty is 8/80K but after researching on this forum and Insight forum questioned dealer and now they say there was a 2008 extension bulletin extension on manual xmissions to 10/150K. I'm told that the bulletin is "monitor and motor control module" Honda Service Bulletin 06-057 dated Feb 5, 2008 that explains all this. Haven't verified all this yet.
#81 of 125 Re: 8/80 or 10/150K warranty on battery pack [bmb97206]
Mar 04, 2010 (6:02 am)
Mine is 2000 mt with 200,000mi. ima came on at 199,980. Dealer said new battery needed. (code #1449 I think) Battery cost $1895 plus install ect. about $2400 total.
I have read you can reset the ima if you disconnect the 12v battery then reconnect.
Did that, ima and battery started working normal. for now? driven about 50 mi. so far so good.
Wondering how far it will go and will it continue to run if the ima shuts down again?
#82 of 125 Re: Insight Batteries [bcou]
Mar 04, 2010 (9:35 pm)
> how much time can elapse before you need a rebalance
The minimum is not known. I can only speak for 90-180 day periods. The batteries become more sensitive as they age, so an older battery will be less tolerant. For example, a brand new battery could sit forever, where a two year old could not handle 90 days. An 6 year old battery might not tolerate 30 days, but it really depends on the condition of the battery - there is no "typical" at those ages. The only thing I can say for sure is that more than 20 people that I have polled had a failure close to 9 months after a 90 day period of non-use.
> where can I get a rebalance in Tx. and how much$?
You can do it yourself. Otherwise, I think I'm the only one in the US doing them. Contact me privately for details on how to do yourself it or for my pricing. Reconditioning requires dismantling of the battery and you have to be comfortable dealing with high voltage, but if you are careful, it is relatively safe. There is a pictorial of the disassembly of a battery on my website on the DIY page.
> what repair manuals will I need? ect. ect.
Contact me for a link with instructions on how to remove your battery. No manuals needed.
#83 of 125 Re: 8/80 or 10/150K warranty on battery pack [bmb97206]
Mar 04, 2010 (9:39 pm)
> I have 2000 manual transmission Insight purchased Dec 2000. Was recently
> advised I needed new battery pack and 2 controllers. Was told warranty is 8/80K
> but after researching on this forum and Insight forum questioned dealer and now
> they say there was a 2008 extension bulletin extension on manual xmissions to
> 10/150K. I'm told that the bulletin is "monitor and motor control module" Honda
> Service Bulletin 06-057 dated Feb 5, 2008 that explains all this. Haven't verified all
> this yet.
Yes this is true, but it covers ALL Insights, both MT and CVT in ALL states. You have 10 years/ 150,000 miles from the in-service date. 2002-2006 Insights are covered to 157,500 miles.
The battery and the BCM/MCM are covered. You don't NEED a new BCM/MCM, but Honda is requiring it.
#84 of 125 Re: 8/80 or 10/150K warranty on battery pack [bcou]
Mar 04, 2010 (9:44 pm)
> Battery cost $1895 plus install ect. about $2400 total.
Can you tell us what part of the country you are in? The prices vary. Also, please let us know if you actually get it for this price because I suspect you will be hit with the following additional charges:
BCM and MCM $1700
> I have read you can reset the ima if you disconnect the 12v battery then
> reconnect. Did that, ima and battery started working normal. for now? driven
> about 50 mi. so far so good. Wondering how far it will go and will it continue to
> run if the ima shuts down again?
You caused the car to forget that the battery had overheated. You have until it overheats again. If you can't afford to fix the battery right now, you should be aware that you can bypass it for free and drive the car on gas only. This does not cause any problems with the car other than failing state inspections, so it is temporary solution.
#85 of 125 Re: 8/80 or 10/150K warranty on battery pack [Ogre_GEV]
Mar 06, 2010 (5:14 pm)
West Texas, Odessa
1895 for the Bat only
There were some more charges to follow?
Still looking for alternatives.
#86 of 125 Re: 8/80 or 10/150K warranty on battery pack [bcou]
Mar 08, 2010 (10:27 am)
> West Texas, Odessa
> 1895 for the Bat only
> There were some more charges to follow?
> Still looking for alternatives.
That's a pretty good price for a new battery. If you can get it for that price, do it. You won't do better.
If by some miracle they let you keep the old battery, I'll buy it from you.
Jul 11, 2010 (2:41 pm)
Purchased a 2002 Insight about March 2010. Pickes it up in Tucson, Ari. drove it to Pahrump, Nv. (between 500 and 600 miles]. Did not need to refuel. refuel cost me about $23.00.Have really enjoyed the Insight, its style, comfort ( I'm 6'4") Attention getter.
IMA came on a few days ago. Called Honda ( I wanted a mechanic in Pahrump to do the job but I was advised that (due to the need for verification of the codes) that I should take it to Las Vegas.When contacting the first dealer in Vegas i was told that I would have to lease a car at my expense. The second dealer advised that the would give me a car to drive while they performed necessary repairs.
I guess that reading the various items on the message board added to my knowledge and assisted me in getting the proper information.
#88 of 125 2000 Honda Insight Battery Pack issue
Sep 01, 2010 (6:45 pm)
I've got a 2000 Insight. The battery was replaced in 2006 by the dealer after I received a recall notice. It had 86,000 miles at the time. My IMA light just came on (at 152,000 miles) and the dealer says that it needs another new battery but it isn't covered under warranty. He also says that the battery they put in 4 years ago was "reconditioned" not new, and that all batteries come that way. They want to charge me $3600 to replace the battery. Do I have any recourse? Please help!
#89 of 125 Re: 2000 Honda Insight Battery Pack issue [kimw007]
Sep 02, 2010 (7:36 am)
I also have 2000 Insight and had almost exactly same scenario. My light came on earlier this year but I had less than 150K miles so it was covered under the 2008 warranty extension for manual xmissions to 10/150K (bulletin is "monitor and motor control module" Honda Service Bulletin 06-057 dated Feb 5, 2008). I was also told that the "new" battery is reconditioned and any battery failures, even during the warranty period would not be covered.