Honda Insight Hybrid Battery Pack Questions

124 messages,  Last post on Apr 22, 2013 at 6:40 PM

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#115 of 124 battery lives going down by jags7

May 03, 2011 (8:09 pm)

I just bought a 2000 insight from a trusted friend 3-31-11 .
He had the car since new. He is a retired engineer and you could not find someone who treats their insight better. She is like a goddess to him.
And he drives very mildly and follows all recs to the letter.
He had to replace his battery at 80K and again
at 119K, then again at 125K! Thankfully all under warranty and by the dealer
via Honda.
 
 It has 130K on it now.
My question is why did it last only 39k the time before last and only 6K the last one? Honda doesnt really know. Maybe a defective battery the last time,
but the time before at 39K is low too. Is there something that could be wrong on the system thats eating up batteries? Honda said no.

#117 of 124 Re: Battery warranty post-replacement [Ogre_GEV] by geewizdaddy

May 11, 2012 (11:29 am)

Replying to: Ogre_GEV (Feb 11, 2009 1:56 pm)
It's true! My 2004 Insight batteries just crapped out at 130k and the dealer told me the parts alone were over $4500. After reading your post I called them back and challenged the warranty and sure enough the repair is covered.
 
It also helped that even though this car was not purchased new it was originally sold by this dealer and I have had them do all the regular maintenance. I also reminded them that this is the 4th or 5th Honda I have purchased from them over the years and I don't deal with their competitor down the street because of service and warranty issues.
 
10 years 150,000 miles.
 
Now can someone tell me where to buy a thumb throttle kit so I can start hyper-miling.

#118 of 124 Charge control and battery balancing by geewizdaddy

May 11, 2012 (11:55 am)

Reading through a lot of the older posts I realize that my sequence of events and symptoms match that of an unbalanced battery pack. My dealer is going to replace my IMA batteries after 130k miles but now I wonder. Is there a way to maintenance the IMA battery pack? Wouldn't it make sense for Honda (and all the other hybrid manufactures) to have a routine battery balancing service every 10-15k Miles or so? Routine maintenance on a lead acid battery is to loosen the caps and overcharge the unit, replenish the electrolyte, and reconnect it to the system. Can the same be done with NiMH batteries without blowing them up or having them catch fire?

#121 of 124 Re: Does my IMA system really need replacement? [harrisonbusk] by ronwitman

Jul 03, 2012 (2:54 pm)

Any mechanic can test for the code that explains the need for the required maintenance. This is in te IMA. you didn't mention the mileage on your car, the magic number is 150,000 miles. You indicate the IMA had previously replaced. The last I heard the 150,000 begins at the time the IMA was replaced. If your dealer does not respond call Honda. I haven't looked into this recently so things may have changed.

#122 of 124 Re: Does my IMA system really need replacement? [ronwitman] by kirstie_h HOST

Jul 12, 2012 (9:23 am)

Replying to: ronwitman (Jul 03, 2012 2:54 pm)
That post was a bit of spammy-spam, disguised as a question. Sorry.

#123 of 124 Re: Charge control and battery balancing [geewizdaddy] by Ogre_GEV

Jul 12, 2012 (9:40 am)

Replying to: geewizdaddy (May 11, 2012 11:55 am)
>Is there a way to maintenance the IMA battery pack?
 
Yes, but the jury is still out on whether it is a good thing to do or not. It wears out the cells, but the benefit of having them balanced may outweigh this.
 
Battery packs that are experiencing problems will definitely see an improvement, and for them, it is a no-brainer, but good batteries may be harmed by frequent charging.
 
>Routine maintenance on a lead acid battery is to loosen the caps and overcharge the unit, replenish the electrolyte, and reconnect it to the system. Can the same be done with NiMH batteries without blowing them up or having them catch fire?
 
No, these are sealed cells. The only maintenance that can be done is to charge them fully. You'll find plans to build your own trickle charger over on Insightcentral.net Search for "grid-charger". The parts will cost you about $100 and can be assembled in less than an hour.

#124 of 124 Re: my battery went up also? [Ogre_GEV] by 2twotwo2

Apr 22, 2013 (6:40 pm)

Replying to: Ogre_GEV (Dec 13, 2008 10:44 am)
Looking for best quote on rebuilding 200 Insight battery
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