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Mitsubishi Outlander, Car Leasing, Car Buying, SUV
#964 of 973 Re: Is tax evaluation correct? [batman47]
Apr 07, 2012 (6:48 am)
Sales tax laws vary by state and this is only my understanding of it so YMMV.
You're paying $29182 for the car so you pay sales tax on that. The rebate is technically a separate transaction. Much like the rebate you might get at Fry's for buying computer parts.
Cars are so expensive that dealers & manufacturers have set up the auto purchase process to allow you to sign over the rebate to the dealer in order to make the initial purchase price easier to swallow. You sign it over to them as part of the purchase paperwork. If you didn't, Mitsu would send you a check for the rebate amount.
BTW if your dealer was collecting profit under the line item "sales tax" in order to get you to pay, your state's Dept. of Revenue would be very interested in them. That's fraud against the consumer and tax evasion against the state government.
WRT auto purchasing, the only thing I've heard of that impacts sales tax is how the state considers trade-ins. Some allow trade-ins to reduce the purchase price (and thus the sales tax); others don't.
#965 of 973 Re: 2011 outlander GT purchased [batman47]
Apr 07, 2012 (10:58 pm)
2wd thanks. If checks out. Gonna buy.
#966 of 973 Re: Is tax evaluation correct? [batman47]
by kyfdx HOST
Apr 08, 2012 (8:22 am)
Rebates are almost always included in the taxable amount for car purchases (similar to a toaster..lol).
#967 of 973 Re: Is tax evaluation correct? [kyfdx]
Apr 08, 2012 (3:34 pm)
It appears that some states do, indeed, what my dealer has done in calculating the taxes. Please check:
Please give your comments.
An institution called “Consumer Federation of America” seems to care for consumers, especially car buyers.
#968 of 973 press request
by kirstie_h HOST
Apr 09, 2012 (1:40 pm)
A reporter is looking for new-car buyers who feel they've been victimized by unscrupulous salespeople. Email predmunds.com no later than Friday, April 13, 2012 with a few words about your experience.
#969 of 973 2012 SE 2wd Premium/Towing/Fuse/Protect/Locks
Apr 11, 2012 (7:33 am)
I just purchased a 2012 outlander SE 2wd w/ Premium/Towing/Protection/Fuse and wheel locks. 22268.89 was the price I paid plus TTL. I believe I got a fair price. I live in Georgia so hopefully this helps the south east buyers. (or any buyers for that matter)
#970 of 973 Rear park sensor option (You may help!)
Apr 11, 2012 (5:13 pm)
Today I have received my 2012 Outlander GT. One of the options I have ordered was the MZ380465EX (rear parking sensors kit). I thought I could activate the rear sensors by using a rear parking sensor switch (ON/OFF) located in the switch push button area. I was wrong. The system, even the buzzer/sonar, is located in the rear of the car. This is a departure from Outlander cars in Europe and Australia where the ECU Corner/Back sensor-ECU (proper module) are located just under the driver instrumentation panel which control the flow of signals to the sensors in the rear of the car.
The US sensor kit is just a very elementary set of harnesses that are attached to the interior of the rear bumper following the path of the side marker lights wires. Electrical energy is drawn from the reverse rear light lamp wires (when the reverse gear is engaged) to energise the parking sensors. This arrangement is just a very cheap (that anybody or garage) can perform. This arrangement only works when the car is engaged in reverse.
If you have a trailer, or anything that you are pulling it will activate the buzzer when reversing even if you are in the middle of nowhere. A high level of electronics is involved in the manual activation or manual deactivation of the rear parking sensors and a separate module (ECU) is needed just to control a set of combinations of engaging reverse without/with buzzing.
My dealer’s explanation was that (after consulting with MMA) he told me that the US government has given a rule forbidding the deactivation of the buzzer and sensors while reversing. This is, according to the dealer, the justification of why Mitsubishi (Japan) has installed, for the US market, the parking sensor, without an On/Off switch, so it always buzzes when reversing and approaching something.
I wonder if such a rule has even been given by the US government for cars of any make from 2012. This contradicts the fact that option MZ380465EX (Mitsubishi cars) has been on the market since 2010 (December). The kit has never been sold with sonar switch, nor with a mini ECU (Corner/back sensor-ECU) that control all the combinations (reversing/non reversing-buzzer on/buzzer off, switch on/ switch off, etc) so how can the US government give a rule for a kit that never had a sonar switch included, nor a corner/back sensor-ECU to control all the combinations buzzer/reversing/switch. This is what happens with Mitsubishi cars in Europe and Australia where the control of the sonar/reversing/switch ECU is located under the driver instrumentation panel.
Please give your comments about this weird US rule.
#971 of 973 Re: 2012 SE 2wd Premium/Towing/Fuse/Protect/Locks [iownone]
Apr 11, 2012 (5:30 pm)
All your options and accessories you got was for free!
#972 of 973 Rebate Offer and "Special Lease Offers"
Jun 20, 2012 (6:17 am)
I'm about to pull the trigger on a 2012 Outlander GT, but they're trying to tell me the 2012 $1000 rebate doesn't apply to leases. Here's the language:
Negotiate your best price and get a $1,000 factory rebate on a new 2012 Outlander. Retailer price and vehicle availability may vary. May not combine with special APR or special Lease offers. See your Mitsubishi retailer for details. Offer valid from 06/01/2012 through 07/31/2012.
Notice that it states "special lease offers." I'm taking this to mean that it's not applicable to one of the special lease rates like this:
2012 Outlander 2.4 ES 2WD CVT Lease
Lease example for 2012 Outlander 2.4 ES 2WD CVT, MSRP $22,345 plus $810 ($935 Alaska / Hawaii) destination handling. Available through Mitsubishi Motors Credit of America, subject to approved credit and insurance. Not all customers will qualify. Retailer price, terms and vehicle availability may vary. Other lease terms/details apply. May not combine with factory cash rebates. See your Mitsubishi retailer for details. Offer valid from 06/01/2012 through 07/31/2012.
I'm not getting a "special" lease. I'm just getting a car at the agreed price and leasing it instead of buying. Anyone have any experience on this? Shouldn't the $1000 rebate still apply?
#973 of 973 Re: 2011 outlander GT purchased [pjgirl23]
Jan 01, 2013 (2:08 am)
They should not treat a woman any diffidently, but I have female friends that have had less that positive experiences with the sales reps calling them 'Hun' ect. I would tell them if you don't meet my fair offer, I am leaving NOW and going elsewhere. There is a good website called http://www.truecar.com and you can put in your exact car and it will give you what others are paying.
I don't know where you live, but Ray Skillman Mitsubishi is always dealing with huge discounts for they are the largest Mitsubishi dealer in the state.