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#909 of 986 Re: used from dealer [redturbo]
May 14, 2009 (4:49 pm)
I was just offered a used 2009 XLS today with almost everything (no navigation) for "under $20,000", AWD, luxury/leather package, sun & sound package with 18k miles on it if it helps you out. That is the dealers' first offer prior to me firing back with my price.
I've been looking for a 2009 XLS with the combination of colors and options I want but it's been difficult to find. I found two 2008 versions that are how I want, exactly..except they are 2009. The two cars were located/owned by "Dealer A" Mitsubishi dealership. That Mitsubishi dealer ship closed down and the two car were titled to "Dealer A" (same owner/dealer) but a different manufacturer line of cars at this dealership location and I"m told these two new 2008 Outlanders now have to be sold as used vehicles. They both have under 200 miles on them and I've been offered a price (I have not negotiated with them yet) of a little over $23k. The MSRP for a 2008 Outlander XLS with all the option packages, AWD is $28,750 including destination fee, no tax, title, registration...just the price of the car.
The price sounds good to me however I'll try to negotiate a lower price but my question is about the warranties for the car and rebate offers. There is a $3,000 Factory - Consumer rebate (or 0% APR option) available on 'new" 2008 Outlanders through 6/1/09 listed on Mitsubishi's website. They only currently offer a $1,000 (or 0% APR rate) for new 2009 Outlanders by the way. Since the car is being sold as 'used' and more or less changes "owners" since it was given/sold to a different dealership (both owned by same person/name) I do not know what heppens to the warranties or rebate. Any help would be appreciated greatly. Thanks!
#910 of 986 Re: used from dealer [slobbatech]
May 14, 2009 (5:03 pm)
Sounds a little fishy to me. I'd check with Mitsubishi about the warranty.
Normally the MCO is not turned in and is technically a "new" vehicle until licensed and registered by the first real owner. (dealers swap unregistered cars all the time) Can you run a CarFax on the VIN to check on registration status? The dealer would be a fool to not keep it untitled when moving between dealers (worth of a "new" car.)
I personally would not want to give up the great bumper to bumper and power train warranties on a 200 mile car. It's one of the strong selling points for me.
#911 of 986 Warranty/Rebate help
May 14, 2009 (5:47 pm)
Both of the cars on the dealers website have a carfax report and there are two different VIN numbers. Carfax says both cars are one-owner cars and everything is good. I'll try to post some pictures of the bottom part of the carfax report with the sensitive information blacked. Both cars were originally at "John Smith Mitsubishi" then on the carfax line dated 1/21/09 it shows the car offered for sale to "John Smith Ford" (same owner name for the Ford dealership). Then "John Smith Ford" had the state issue the title to their dealership on the 1/23/09 line of information. So it looks like "John Smith Mitsubishi" didn't have ownership as carfax says first ownership is "John Smith Ford"????
What does MCO mean?
Yeah Mitsubishi's warranties are very good!
#912 of 986 Re: Warranty/Rebate help [slobbatech]
May 14, 2009 (7:22 pm)
MCO = MSO is a Manufacturers Certificate ( or Statement) of Origin. That document is surrendered to the registering state in turn for the first title.
If it's really been titled, I'm surprised. (seems strange to me fro a 200 mile vehicle moving between dealers as they give up the "new" status, Why would this be done?) The bank may still call it "new" for the loan rate, but it's what Mitsubishi calls it that counts for warranty and I'd personally want that warranty (or a serious amount off ) Whatever you do, get it in writing and verify with Mitsubishi if you are being told a "new car" warranty will be in effect.
#913 of 986 Re: used from dealer [slobbatech]
May 15, 2009 (9:22 am)
Sorry, I had a typo/lapse of memory when I posted the post I have copied below. The year should be a 2007, not 2009, everything else is accurate.
"I was just offered a used 2009 XLS today with almost everything (no navigation) for "under $20,000", AWD, luxury/leather package, sun & sound package with 18k miles on it if it helps you out. That is the dealers' first offer prior to me firing back with my price. "
#914 of 986 Re: Warranty/Rebate help [comem47]
May 15, 2009 (9:29 am)
I just got off of the phone with Mistubishi. I gave them the VIN # and mileage and told them the story about my previous question for the warranty and they said that all of the warranties are still good/valid btu with exception(s) The powertrain changes from 10/100,000 to 5/60,000. starting on the service date of 12/1/08. Then I think I lose about a year or so on the rest of the warranties offered on the car.
What do you all think of this? The price is 5k or so below invoice which is great, the car is exactly in the configuration I want. Only cons on this is it's a 2hr drive to the dealer for me and I lose some warranty coverage.
May 15, 2009 (11:53 pm)
mitsubishi is pushing me hard to get this brand new 2008 XLS they have, has all the options.. sun and sound, navi, and luxury, XLS V6.. black leather!!! BUT no AWD =*(
Can't by anything unless it has that. Sticker price was 29-30k, they were offering it to me at $23k
Guess not bad for those who dont mind not having AWD, but for me, its a must.
#916 of 986 Re: 08s cheap [redturbo]
May 16, 2009 (3:34 am)
Yes, a 2008 without AWD for 23K doesn't sound like a deal to me. When you start talking about non AWD (actually it's 4WD) there are a lot of options out there.
That's really the only reason I was looking at Mitsubishi because 4WD/AWD was
a must have for me.
If one goes back to just FWD the market is wide open.
#917 of 986 Re: 08s cheap [redturbo]
May 16, 2009 (4:05 am)
I don't think 23K is that bad if they are offering it with the 0% for 72 mos that is available on 2008 leftovers in the US.
May 16, 2009 (5:17 pm)
I went ahead and got the 208 Outlander from out of town. It is XLS with 210 miles on it and has everything (nav, sun&sound, luxury/leather packages), 4wd. The price of it was $23,000 for the car + tax/title, etc... The final price was $24,791 with all of that stuff included. The 'cost'/invoice of a new 2008 Outlander including the $3,000 rebate and subtracting the dealer holdback...so it's the actual cost of the car, is $25,246 for the model/package configuration car I got. I originally wanted a 2009, but paying about $5,000 more just to have a 2009 that is pretty much the same as the 2008 isn't worth it for me.
Just some info for you all. I'm happy with it, hopefully no surprises come about down the road from the car justifying the low price for it.