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Ford Freestyle, Brakes, SUV
#457 of 476 Re: Better pad solution for rear brakes? [teachymomo2]
Oct 01, 2009 (1:01 pm)
Now I got told there was a brake swelling issue when this first happened! Ask anyone with a Volvo if they have the same problem...bet not!
I am getting my second set of rear brakes and now rotors in 34K in 4 years! needless to say I am NOT happy with Ford...filed a complaint with the NHSTA and the state of WI lemon law. People need to scream and raise hell about this!! Models 2005 thru 7 have an issue with rear brake wear!
An independent shop is trying a different type of brake shoe to see if this works better...will post later check this list
#458 of 476 Re: Better pad solution for rear brakes? [illustrator5]
Oct 29, 2009 (12:26 pm)
Somewhat related question. Ford replaced our 2007 Freestyle Limited's brakes at 26,000 and I just had them replaced at 58,800 yesterday, this time NOT by our Ford dealership and at my expense. It was just the back brakes. The place that replaced them is trustworthy. I've brought my truck in twice and they sent me home at not charge and told me my pads were fine, so I DO trust them.
The guy said that it "looked" like whoever replaced them before put fronts on the backs. I thought quick enough to get the pads from him, but I'm dump founded on how to find out if that was the case.
Here are all the numbers on the pads, anyone else have any suggestions?
Bosch, KF 6008, 0204, 207464, then there is 211.7 on 2 of them and 215.7 on the other two.
This was our last Ford, between my wife and me, it was our 6th, and we've NEVER had problems with them like this one. We are waiting a Throttle Body to come in so it can be replaced. The part is back ordered until December. We can at least drive it, for the moment.
#459 of 476 Should be a recall but don't count on it
Nov 06, 2009 (1:14 pm)
I am tired of reading about how Ford continues to ignore this issue. There is no recall just a TSB. Brakes wearing out at 15K to 20K miles is NOT "normal". My expert mechanic (X-Ford and certified) looked at my 2005 Freestyle "premature" brake wear. The problem is clearly a design flaw. Also, being the same platform and sharing brake parts, the 500 has the same problem but usually goes longer to 30K miles which consumers and so-called "mechanics" just accept as normal. This is analagous to a doctor who doesn't know what's wrong with you but just keeps prescribing medicine and charging you for the office visit. It appears the caliper is not built to correct specs, allowing the piston to push the pad too far and into a cocked or jammed position, wearing and eventually scoring the rotor.. This does not allow the piston to return to its original position (when you let up on the brake pedal) thus causing drag and the premature pad wear (12-15K miles). The unique (flawed?)design requires the pistons to turn into the cylinder and requires using a special tool when replacing pads. On the 500, the pins could also "freeze" as a result of the piston problem. In my 2005, according to my expert, the piston traveled ALL THE WAY OUT but luckily the cylinder did not leak. If it had leaked, that brake would fail and the balance system should still allow you to brake but possibly causing loss of control like to a woman with kids in the car. Ford and their dealers have virtually ignored the situation and deny any problem (too few cars to worry about). Whatever happened to their Customer Satisfaction Program? My expert says the only preventive step is to replace the pads BEFORE they wear to this point or the same problem will occur as it has for MANY other owners. Its much cheaper to replace pads than calipers and rotors. Ford will do nothing on a car being phased out, although there have been recall notices on the 500 since they are keeping them. But the two cars SHARE all the brake parts so the 500 forum will be getting much bigger.
#460 of 476 Re: 05 ford freestyle brakes [illustrator5]
Nov 16, 2009 (2:12 pm)
What a bunch of whiners you are. It's obvious the car has underdesigned rear rotors - Ford screwed up. It's obvious Ford is floundering. But all in all the 05 Freestyle is an excellent car of far superior value and safety to Subaru or whatever else is out there. In fact, the Freestyle is designed based on Volvo, Ford had access to all of Volvo's designs when they bought Volvo years back.
The fix is simple - spend a little more money and buy rotors that are slotted and drilled - therefore remain far cooler. In fact I never replace rotors on any car that are not slotted and drilled. Also use ceramic pads that are almost always guaranteed for life. Sure it will cost you a few hundred more bucks for this kind of upgrade, and I'd agree it is Ford's fault, but it's well worth it for every car you own whenever you replace the rotors. And in the end costs less than your pathetic effort of your endlessly complaining, and less than buying a Subaru.
#462 of 476 Re: 05 ford freestyle brakes [carhero]
Nov 16, 2009 (4:21 pm)
Ford screwed up. It's obvious Ford is floundering.
That seems like a pretty compelling reason to not complain about the Freestyle's faults. However, one could interpret that as whining.
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#463 of 476 Re: 05 ford freestyle brakes [carhero]
Nov 17, 2009 (7:48 am)
But owners SHOULDN'T have to replace the rotors on a car that is that new. That wonderful Volvo design that you mentioned was the main reason we bought the car. Ours was an '07. My wife drives a lot and we were expecting # 1 and why not put your wife and child in a Ford Volvo?
My bigger problem, unrelated to brakes is the throttle body has gone bad in ours and we can't get a new one until December (at the earliest). This happen in August. I would gladly PAY to have it fixed, but there isn't a part to fix it with, and Ford doesn't seem to care. So I've been paying for a car since August that is unreliable. I guess this is just being pathetic and complaining to?
#464 of 476 Re: 05 ford freestyle brakes [schmeal]
Nov 24, 2009 (8:53 am)
I replaced the rear brakes at about 35,000 miels (and recently my front brakes) on my '05 Freestyle FWD with 75,000 miles. I bought aftermarket ceramic pads (about $50 for front and rear) and had a local shop put them in for $100. I was reimbursed by Ford for the cost of replacing the rear brakes. I kept on the original rotors. So far, I haven't had any big problems with the Freestyle.
As far as Volvo...I paid $23,000 for my Freestyle back in Feb 2005 and if I could have found a Volvo that seated 7 at that price I might have done so!
Dec 02, 2009 (8:48 pm)
I have an 05 Limited AWD. It has 29000 miles on it and have just put on its 3rd set of rear brake pads, the originals, warranty replacement and now by my mechanic. The rotors have been turned both front and back two times. I have only 12000 miles since the warranty replacement two years ago. The left rear pad had only about 10% left. Also I had a front caliper bolt broke. I hope the after market pads are better than fords, 12000 miles per set of pads is not very good. I did call my dealership and got no where. Customer service is out the window. This is my first ford and maybe the last after this brake episode.
#466 of 476 Another Customer Burned by Freestyle Brakes
Oct 04, 2010 (8:12 pm)
I just discovered this forum this evening after returning from my Ford dealership, which allegedly spent the day inspecting my '06 Freestyle, at my insistence, 3 weeks after I had the second set of rear brake pads installed on my Freestyle, along with a new set of rear rotors. My rear pads were replaced in March 2009 at 31,000 miles, but Ford covered it as part of a program it had at that time. I didn't think much of it then, but I did this September when, after only 16,844 miles, I was told that the rear pads were toast again, along with the rotors. This time: no program, so it came out of my pocket. I was incredulous at how this could happen. Dealer's attitude was -- your warranty is up, there's no Ford program available, the guarantee on the replacements has expired. Translation: We don't have to do anything for you, and we're not going to. After I complained to Ford Motor Co., they were suddenly interested in having me bring it in for a complete inspection, providing me a courtesy car at their expense. At the end of the day, all they did was replace the "slide pins" on the front calipers (at their expense, at least). The same service manager who 3 weeks ago asked me how my wife brakes when she drives, and hemmed and hawed and insisted he had no idea what could be causing this problem, tells me tonight that it's "par for the course" with this model and that all I had to do was go online and search "Freestyle AND brake wear" and I'd find plenty of info. Sure enough, I landed at this forum. I am simply outraged that the dealer misled me earlier. And I'm stunned that Ford won't stand behind its product and do right by its customers.