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#47 of 76 Re: new BMW 3-series conv. pricing (US) [rschleicher]
by redbuzz
Mar 24, 2007 (3:38 pm)
I priced out the BMW too...about $3200 more for the 328i equipped about the same. The BMW has a few things the C70 does not and vice versa. For instance, the BMW does not appear to have the side curtain airbags like the C70 and the Volvo's bi-xenon headlights do not turn with the steering like the BMW (and some other Volvos). Interestingly the 328i is rated at 230 hp vs. the 218 for the C70. About $267 per horse. Both cars are about 3800 lbs.
#48 of 76 let's not forget
by qbrozen
Mar 26, 2007 (12:50 pm)
RWD. For alot of folks, RWD, extra ponies, AND the propeller badge are easily worth a few extra grand.
I have no doubt this car will suck alot of C70 sales away from volvo.
#49 of 76 Re: let's not forget [qbrozen]
by volvomax
Mar 26, 2007 (1:27 pm)
What is alot?
The C70 isn't going to sell in big numbers anyway.
It's a niche car.
There is probably going to be a $7-10,000 difference in price between the C70 and the new bimmer.
For the true believers, they will pay the extra $$ to drive a bimmer.
For the undecided, it may be enough to steer them to the Volvo.
#50 of 76 Re: let's not forget [volvomax]
by qbrozen
Mar 26, 2007 (1:34 pm)
the price difference was just posted. It is between $3k and $4k.
I don't think the person needs to be a true believer, honestly. If it truly were a $7k difference, that would be a whole other story. But at $3k, I think you'll loose alot of the "undecided" just because of the badge. For an 8% price difference, I think most uninformed shoppers will feel the added cache of the propeller is easily worth it.
#51 of 76 C70 - understated beauty, Scandanavian luxury
by autoedu
Mar 27, 2007 (1:04 am)
In a busy downtown area, one restaurant serves German cuisine, another restaurant Swedish specialty. Sure they are in direct competition for your dining pleasure, but both will be busy and prosper with their own clientele.
The Volvo C70 somehow looks sexier, feels more intelligent, and exudes more elegance than the BMW. Their is something different about the smart, understated beauty of Scandanavian design. Once inside a Volvo there is a peaceful comfort that is relaxingly safe, with everything designed for the driver's well-being. Everything is smooth, simple, functional; from the slim center console to the notoriously comfort of the Volvo seat.
The BMW, on the other hand, is a marriage between European style and German engineering. The BMW brand is well recognized, its cars excel in performance, but its design come across as too aggressive and flashy for my taste. The interior is busy and overwhelmed with electronics buttons and controls.
Those who wants to experience the prowness of German engineering will appreciates the performance of BMW.
For others who appreciates the beauty and comfort of Scandanavian luxury and style will enjoy and feel safe in a Volvo.
Personally I like the C70. If I want to experience the performance of German-engineering vehicle, I will save another $15K for a Porsche...if I can afford both that Cayman is just as sexy and beautiful as the C70
#52 of 76 Re: C70 - understated beauty, Scandanavian luxury [autoedu]
by silverspyder
Mar 29, 2007 (9:45 am)
I also think the C70 looks better. But a big difference is FWD vs RWD. If you get snow where you live, the C70 is a hands down winner. And one of the reasons I bought the Volvo.
#53 of 76 Re: let's not forget [qbrozen]
by volvomax
Mar 29, 2007 (2:41 pm)
I don't see how.
I just price a 328ic w/ the same equipment as on a $47000 C70 I got up to $56000 on the Bimmer.
Yes, the base price is close, but BMW really gets you on options.
Good luck finding a cheap 328ic.
#54 of 76 Re: C70 - understated beauty, Scandanavian luxury [autoedu]
by flheat
Mar 29, 2007 (3:34 pm)
Scandanavian Luxury ala Buick
I cannot rationalize the cost of a C70 that looks like a 10 year old Buick and is not able to compete in drivability to the 3 Series. Even with the higher price of the BMW it is a bargin compared to the C70; those looking for a better bargin will chose a VW Eos at almost 10 grand less than the C70 and better overall performance.
#55 of 76 Re: C70 - understated beauty, Scandanavian luxury [flheat]
by volvomax
Mar 29, 2007 (3:49 pm)
Well,I think everyone who has bought one would disagree w/ you.
But what do they know?
#56 of 76 Re: C70 - understated beauty, Scandanavian luxury [flheat]
by qbrozen
Mar 30, 2007 (6:38 am)
Wow! Those are so dissimilar that I can't even come up with a strong enough insult that would appropriately describe your eye for style.