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What is this discussion about? Volvo C70, Convertible

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#27 of 76 Re: Back to the original topic - BMW Convertible [cricket4] by qbrozen

Jan 25, 2007 (10:43 am)

Replying to: cricket4 (Jan 25, 2007 10:27 am)
thanks for the link.
 
pricing has yet to be announced, so we'll have to wait to see what happens.
 
Of course, a key difference is that the bmw is RWD. For some folks, that's worth $4k (and then some).
 
If the pricing holds true, I think that's just fine. It leaves the volvo in its own little slot for now. Its for those who don't want RWD or the propeller badge and want more than VW has to offer.

#28 of 76 Re: Back to the original topic - BMW Convertible [qbrozen] by volvomax

Jan 25, 2007 (6:02 pm)

Replying to: qbrozen (Jan 25, 2007 10:43 am)
Simply put, if someone wants the bimmer they will spend the extra money to get it.
The 2 cars appeal to different buyers.
The C70 customer has more in common w/ the A4 and CLK customer than the bimmer customer.

#29 of 76 Re: Back to the original topic - BMW Convertible [volvomax] by qbrozen

Jan 26, 2007 (8:07 am)

Replying to: volvomax (Jan 25, 2007 6:02 pm)
interesting perspective. I just can't agree, however, since I would look at the C70 and bimmer, but not the audi or CLK.
 
Unless you are a badge shopper (which, i admit, many shoppers are), the biggest difference on paper between the 328 and C70 is RWD vs FWD.
 
Of course, if someone wants the bmw they will spend the extra money.

#31 of 76 Re: Back to the original topic - BMW Convertible [qbrozen] by volvomax

Jan 26, 2007 (10:20 am)

Replying to: qbrozen (Jan 26, 2007 8:07 am)
Yes, but are you going to race the car?
For the average driver, there isn't any difference in daily driving between FWD and RWD cars.
You get in the car, commute, get stuck in traffic.
Sometimes on the weekend you get to open the car up a little, but the average driver doesn't have the skill to exploit even the C70's abilities.

#32 of 76 Re: Back to the original topic - BMW Convertible [volvomax] by cricket4

Jan 26, 2007 (10:37 am)

Replying to: volvomax (Jan 26, 2007 10:20 am)
I think you are absolutely on point here, Volvomax. I have to agree.

#33 of 76 Re: Back to the original topic - BMW Convertible [volvomax] by qbrozen

Jan 26, 2007 (11:07 am)

Replying to: volvomax (Jan 26, 2007 10:20 am)
i'm not arguing with you at all. i try to avoid the whole rwd/fwd argument as much as possible, as a matter of fact. I'm just stating what the one big difference is in the 2 cars.
 
From what I'm seeing right now at this moment, I consider these 2 vehicles competitors. Does the A4 compete? I don't know. Are they coming out with a retractable hardtop A4? I don't pay attention to audi, for the most part. Is the new CLK going to be a retractable hardtop? If it comes it at ~$40k with 220+ hp, then it may be a competitor.
 
The C70 and 3-series aren't exactly the same, no, of course not. That would be silly. They each have their perceived strengths and weaknesses. If volvo holds a price advantage, that's definitely a plus in its column. Especially where it currently sits. I know there are a group of buyers who have a cap of $40k. Its kind of like searching for a house, you set a limit and, for the most part, nothing above that limit even hits your radar.

#34 of 76 Re: Back to the original topic - BMW Convertible [qbrozen] by volvomax

Jan 26, 2007 (1:38 pm)

Replying to: qbrozen (Jan 26, 2007 11:07 am)
The reason that I mention the A4 and CLK is that they are also 4 seat convertibles.
The people looking at the C70 have them on the list as well.
More so than the SLK, XLR, SC430, and Eos. The other current Hardtop convertibles.

#35 of 76 Re: Back to the original topic - BMW Convertible [volvomax] by qbrozen

Jan 26, 2007 (1:45 pm)

Replying to: volvomax (Jan 26, 2007 1:38 pm)
Ok, fair enough. What about Saab?

#36 of 76 Re: Back to the original topic - BMW Convertible [qbrozen] by volvomax

Jan 26, 2007 (3:06 pm)

Replying to: qbrozen (Jan 26, 2007 1:45 pm)
Not even in the picture here.
PHX isn't a good market for SAAB.

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