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#20 of 43 Re: Ford is a Low Quality Brand So Expect the Edge.....to be Low Quality
Jul 11, 2007 (12:40 pm)
I am going to give you the "proverbial" 0.02 cents on this matter ...I am ready to buy a CUV and I was undecided between the EDGE and the MAZDA CX 9..both good vehicles in my opinion,of course the CX 9 being a higher price. I subscribed to different groups MAZDA and FORD EDGE and what I am noticing is that the MAZDA CX 9 forums are reporting more "dissapointments" (small ones) than the people in the EDGE forums. This made me think in the price differences on both vehicles fully loaded (about $3500 difference). Again for the price, it seems that FORD's EDGE is a winner hands down.I have not followed the others like the ENCLAVE (dealers believe that they have a "HOT" item..very little negotiations,if any)..Saturn(with their "famous" no haggling policy) and GMC (they also think that they have the vehicle for the second coming of CHRIST ,not trying to be irreverent),so that leaves me back to the EDGE,which incidentally you can hardly find any 2007 they way I want it, so I will wait another 30 or 60 ddays for the 2008 which is coming much better equip (they way I like it).
Sorry for the long posting..
#21 of 43 Re: Reliability [frizz2112]
Jul 26, 2007 (4:12 pm)
I have been driving Fords for over forty years and I have had very good service with every one of them.I have a 96 Aerostar with well over 100,000 miles on. This vehicle has never had a tune up, original spark, wires, etc. Never had a problem with it. It run like a new one, not one time has it ever failed me, and its still solid and trouble free and I have had it for over ten years. There is no way that I would trade any of my Ford's for a rice burner. I also have a 2003 Ford Super Duty turbo diesel, great truck, lot of power, well built, not bad on fuel either, better than any stinken Tundra.
#22 of 43 Re: Reliability [ANT14]
Jul 26, 2007 (7:47 pm)
Great article, how true it is. No manufacture is perfect. I have been driving Fords for over forty years, and they have been good to me.I hope Ford gets through this and gets back on top.No rice burners for me.
#23 of 43 What bugs me about the Edge
Jul 30, 2007 (11:06 am)
I feel some of the interior trim pieces are very cheap and barely screwed down. Especially around the door openings.
If you sat in a Fusion then went and sat in a Edge, the Edge feels like a step down.
#24 of 43 Re: Reliability [mustangandy]
Aug 02, 2007 (9:30 am)
Sorry, but you touched a nerve with me. For a little background. I grew up in Detroit and the suburbs. I STILL own an 85 Mustang GT that I bought NEW when I was 18. That being said.
I had never owned a "rice burner" until I got the Mustang re painted and wanted to buy a "winter beater" and garage the mustang. I ended up buying a 90' Toyota Celica GT with over 115,000 miles on it ( I thought it was a Ford Probe when I drove buy the dealership). When I got the car which was now 13 years old everything on it WORKED. It was fully loaded and all the backlighting, controls, power windows, sunroof etc. all WORKED! The car drove flawlessly and got over 30mpg and looked nice too. I ended up keeping the Celica and garaged the Mustang. I drove the Celica until it had over 190,000 miles on it and sold it to a friend who is still driving it. I have had two friends who have owned a total of 3 Toyota PU trucks with over 250K miles each on them.
When it came time for me to buy a new car I bought a Lexus. I did plenty of research, and Lexus quality was beyond compare IMHO. And I felt comfortable knowing it was made by the same company that made that Toyota Celica. I test drove the Mercedes and was dissapointed to see that apparently they let Chrysler engineers design it.
I have had the Lexus for over a year now and I plan on giving it to my daughter when she starts driving. The reasons are because: It's SAFE, It's Reliable, it will last her all the way through college, and she can actually drive it and afford the insurance and gas.
BTW on the Lexus owners forum some Lexus users even go so far as to claim that they would only buy a vehicle MADE in JAPAN. They claim to have bought American made Acura's, Honda's and Toyota's, Mazda's etc.. and the quality was not as high as the vehicles actually produced in Japan.
I served in the Army, and you will be hard pressed to find a bigger patriot, but before some car manufacturer is going to get $30K-$40K from me they better give me an outstanding product. When I was a kids we bought a new Ford Country Squire station wagon that fell apart and ended up in the junkyard after 4 years . That won't happen again.
I don't mind you bragging about Fords, but when you bag on Toyota's it is obviously coming from a position of ignorance as any personal experience or JD powers or Consumer Reports survey will tell you that Lexus and Toyota absolutely SMOKE ANY and ALL US Auto manufacturer. Of course people like me served to defend your right to free speech. I just wish you'd use it more wisely.
#25 of 43 Re: Ford is a Low Quality Brand So Expect the Edge.....to be Low Quality [svofan2]
Aug 02, 2007 (9:48 am)
Here's my take on this topic. Anyone who would spend $3500 more on a vehicle with the same components that is branded differently (eg. the Edge VS the CX9) Probably has had past positive experience with a Japanese MADE vehicle. So, I think that both vehicles are probably IDENTICAL it's just that Buyers who have previously owned a Japanese made vehicle have MUCH higher expectations out of what they perceived to be a Japanese car. Whereas the buyers who bough the Ford Edge are probably thrilled till they're wet in the pants that they bought a Ford (really probably 60% Mazda - all Japanese drivetrain) with only a few minor annoyances. I would bet that many of these people would be oblivious to the sqeaks, rattles, misaligned trim etc... because they have been conditioned by Detroit that this is normal.
In summary, I just think that the Mazda buyers had higher expectations and when those were not met (by a car made in America) they will voice their frustration. The fact that they paid $3500 more for the same car speaks VOLUMES about the perceived gap in quality between US and Japanese car makers.
#26 of 43 Re: Reliability [jet2work]
Aug 02, 2007 (9:58 am)
I should add that the reason I visited this forum (beside being on the payroll of all the foreign auto makers :<} - TIC) is that I am renting a car from a dealership for a roadtrip, and he's out of minivans and I am getting an Edge. I was here to check on reliability, mileage, seating etc... So far I am cautiously optimistic about this car. IMHO the only way the Big 3 are going to win customers back is by people having positive experiences with their products. Rent a car from Hertz or Enterprize and fall in love with it while on vacation or business. Have your neighbor constantly tell you how much he loves his (Ford, GM, Chrysler) and how he never takes it to the shop. Is their hope for Detroit?? I hope so, but having grown up there, the mentality of the employees, causes me doubt. As far as any of them are concerned they work for the UAW not Ford or GM etc.. Until both groups can get together and set a goal to please their customers instead of their stockholders or union membership, we have not seen the bottom.
#27 of 43 Re: Reliability [jet2work]
Oct 27, 2007 (10:17 am)
I thought that I should post a follow up on my rental experience with the Ford Edge. I did enjoy driving the car. It had a very comfortable ride. The vehicle was quiet, and it cruised effortlessly even at 80MPH (so be carefull - you will be going alot faster than you realize if you don't pay attention to the speedo). The mileage was not great (avg about 19-20), but as I mentioned I was driving 75-80 MPH. Down around 60MPH I would expect the mileage to be much better. The car handled well. There were some interior trim issues, and the fit was not anywhere near foreign car quality (this was a design issue, not assembly). But I did have plastic pieces that came off the seat rails etc..( not very impressive).
Overall I put 1400 miles on this vehicle in one long weekend. It was pleasant to drive. Would I buy one??? I do know how much they cost, but I would be reluctant to part with more than $21K for a vehicle of this caliber new. Given Ford's reputation for quality (or lack thereof) I would pay more for a Toyota or Used Lexus. I'm the kind that keeps cars for a long time, so quality and mechanical reliability are more important to me than style.
If this car (and the rest of their fleet) proves to be reliable Ford may be on the road to recovery. Let's hope!
OMG I just saw a profile view of the EDGE on the advertisement on the left side of this page.
The side profile looks IDENTICAL to the Lexus RX330 with the EDGE being perhaps a little squatier. Well, they say that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. How about imitating that Toyota/Lexus quality?
Click Here to look at the 2005 Lexus RX330 on Edmunds. Flame me if I'm wrong.
#28 of 43 Re: Reliability [jet2work]
Oct 27, 2007 (4:40 pm)
How about imitating that Toyota/Lexus quality?
If by that you mean transmission problems, engine sludge, frame cracks, exploding camshafts and folding tailgates - no thanks.
#29 of 43 Re: Reliability [jet2work]
Oct 27, 2007 (6:49 pm)
You may well be right. If I had another 10-12K to spend on a comparably equiped 350, I would probably buy one. Really, I am not taking a shot here, but it seems unfair to compare the Edge to the 350 given the massive price difference. If it was the MKK you were comparing, I could more see your point.