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Ford Edge Too Heavy? How's the Handling?

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#21 of 80
Re: Edge Too Heavy -- A FreeStyle is Lighter & Bigger [driverdm] by coldcranker
Oct 31, 2006 (7:49 pm)
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Replying to: driverdm (Oct 30, 2006 9:35 pm)

"I found no where in the article that said anything about the cornering or braking being bad."
 
I don't think the line about "very SUV-like on the skidpad" was a complement on the Edge/MKX. Note the braking suffers, as the Freestyle does 70-0 in 192 ft, while the MKX, with wider tires than the Freestyle, does 70-0 in 197 ft. Thats the consequence of high weight: Turning, braking, acceleration, and gas mileage are all adversely affected. Some new cars will sell because they simply "look real good" and are shiny, but buyers should look at performance above looks. The Edge/MKX have too many negatives for me. The Murano is faster, brakes better, handles better, has a better V6, and gets better gas mileage than the Edge/MKX, yet people will buy the Edge/MKX, just not in great numbers. Ford needs to do better. Freestyles are bigger and more efficient, and the Murano is a better performer, so the Edge/MKX are not cutting it.
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Re: Edge Too Heavy -- A FreeStyle is Lighter & Bigger [akirby] by baggs32
Oct 31, 2006 (8:07 pm)
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Replying to: akirby (Oct 31, 2006 5:20 pm)

And the CX-7 has knock sensors just like the Murano and will run on regular without damage - but it's not recommended.
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Re: Edge Too Heavy -- A FreeStyle is Lighter & Bigger [coldcranker] by driverdm
Nov 01, 2006 (3:29 pm)
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Replying to: coldcranker (Oct 31, 2006 7:49 pm)

You forgot to mention that the Murano also takes premium to deliver on the goods and according to Edmunds, the Edge should be faster than the Murano, so we may have to rethink that whole "the Murano is a better performer" logic because the Edge will run harder for cheaper.
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Re: Edge Too Heavy -- A FreeStyle is Lighter & Bigger [coldcranker] by driverdm
Nov 01, 2006 (3:35 pm)
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Replying to: coldcranker (Oct 31, 2006 7:49 pm)

Edmunds on Acceleration:
 
"What it lacks in cubic footage, the 2007 Ford Edge makes up for in horsepower. Instead of the tired Duratec V6 used in countless other Fords, this SUV has an all-new 3.5-liter V6 rated at 265 horsepower at 6250 rpm and 250 pound-feet of torque at 4500 rpm. Fitted with variable intake valve timing, the 3.5-liter doesn't blow you away with its low-end response, but once it revs up a bit, the Edge feels pretty quick.
 
The six-speed automatic works well with the V6, delivering smooth upshifts and well-timed downshifts."
 
"Ford says the Edge will accelerate to 60 mph in "under 8 seconds" with either drivetrain configuration, which makes it one of the quicker sport-utes in its class. The Murano, for example, takes 8.2 seconds to reach 60, while a Hyundai Santa Fe needs 9.4 seconds."
 
Edmunds on handling:
 
"Ford's engineers are fans of the Murano's dynamics, so we weren't surprised by the Edge's agility on winding roads. It isn't tuned to be a serious athlete like the CX-9, but its reflexes are nonetheless impressive for a 4300-pound vehicle. Body roll is predictable, and the steering feels right whether you're blasting down the highway or entering a tight turn. Plus, the brake pedal has a nice, linear progression."
 
Seems like the Edge is not only pretty quick but does a decent handling job. Also its weight is right in with everybody else. If you want performance, get a CX-7. Now that performs. For a basic CUV, get an Edge.
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Re: Edge Too Heavy -- A FreeStyle is Lighter & Bigger [driverdm] by coldcranker
Nov 01, 2006 (7:39 pm)
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Replying to: driverdm (Nov 01, 2006 3:35 pm)

"its weight is right in with everybody else"
 
Everybody except the Murano and Freestyle. The Murano is almost exactly the same size, yet weighs 400 lbs less, and the Freestyle is bigger than either and weighs about the same. Also note that the Edmunds review said "..for a 4300 lb vehicle." The Edge is a step backwards. Don't get me wrong, the Edge isn't bad, it just is not as good as a Murano, which came out almost 4 years earlier! And there are other better or as-good choices out there. Remember the Murano gets 0.81 g's on the skidpad to the Edge's 0.75, and the Murano gets sub-8second 0-60 times, beating the Edge again.
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Re: Edge Too Heavy -- A FreeStyle is Lighter & Bigger [coldcranker] by driverdm
Nov 01, 2006 (8:27 pm)
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Replying to: coldcranker (Nov 01, 2006 7:39 pm)

What are you talking about? Who cares if it is heavier if it is faster and handles the same? How is the Murano faster when the Edmunds article clearly says it will not be? The Edge is supposed to get to 60 in under 8 seconds.
 
"Ford says the Edge will accelerate to 60 mph in "under 8 seconds" with either drivetrain configuration, which makes it one of the quicker sport-utes in its class. The Murano, for example, takes 8.2 seconds to reach 60, while a Hyundai Santa Fe needs 9.4 seconds."
 
Sure the Murano came out almost four years ago but what about the new RAV4, the CRV, the Santa Fe, the CX-7, the Mitsu Endeavor.
 
"The Edge is a step backwards."
 
I just don't see how. The Edge goes faster, is probably quieter due to all the sound deadening, is cheaper, and uses premium fuel to deliver its 265hp.
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Re: Edge Too Heavy -- A FreeStyle is Lighter & Bigger [driverdm] by akirby
Nov 01, 2006 (8:57 pm)
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Replying to: driverdm (Nov 01, 2006 8:27 pm)

driverdm meant "uses regular fuel to deliver it's 265hp". The suspension engineers tell me it totally outperforms the Murano in handling despite the extra weight. It was their benchmark for tuning.
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Re: Edge Too Heavy -- A FreeStyle is Lighter & Bigger [coldcranker] by baggs32
Nov 02, 2006 (5:54 am)
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Replying to: coldcranker (Nov 01, 2006 7:39 pm)

and the Murano gets sub-8second 0-60 times, beating the Edge again.
 
By saying this you're comparing a performance test from another source which isn't apples to apples. Edmund's numbers don't really tell us anything either since their Murano was tested a while ago. Wait for MT or C&D to do a comparo between the two and then you can see which one is faster and which one handles better because they will be tested under the same conditions by the same tester.
 
Pulling numbers out of a hat just because they may look more impressive is useless.
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Re: Edge Too Heavy -- A FreeStyle is Lighter & Bigger [coldcranker] by kgford
Nov 03, 2006 (5:21 pm)
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Replying to: coldcranker (Nov 01, 2006 7:39 pm)

Maybe I can't read anymore but the 0-60 time of the Murano is 8.2 seconds!! Which is over 8 seconds last time I checked. While the Edge is Running 7.6 seconds 0-60. Simple logic says the edge is faster than the Murano.
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Re: Edge Too Heavy -- A FreeStyle is Lighter & Bigger [kgford] by coldcranker
Nov 04, 2006 (6:37 pm)
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Replying to: kgford (Nov 03, 2006 5:21 pm)

The Murano is faster (slightly) than an Edge. The Murano's 0-60 times were taken from a Murano test by Car&Driver 3 years ago ("...60 mph flashes by in 7.5 seconds..."). Car&Driver's numbers tend to make all cars faster than they really are because they do "rev-brake" starts, where you rev the engine against the clutch or torque convertor before releasing the brakes, launching you a little faster. Ford's statements basically match Car&Driver's recent tests of the Lincoln MKX, although getting below 8 seconds in an AWD version is difficult. In a nutshell, the Edge is NOT faster than a Murano. The Edge also handles worse and brakes worse than the Freestyle or Murano. The Edges ride comfort will probably be better than a Murano, though.

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