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Ford Edge Too Heavy? How's the Handling?

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Re: Edge Too Heavy -- A FreeStyle is Lighter & Bigger [garandman] by coldcranker
Oct 30, 2006 (4:46 pm)
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Replying to: garandman (Oct 29, 2006 10:19 pm)

"...Edge weighs between 4,098 and 4,282 lbs - with larger dimensions and a 3.5l engine and more horsepower than most of the above. They're all piggies."
 
I agree the weights are high. (Especially the Taureg.) The Edge doesn't look bad against those, but the Murano is 3,800 lbs (FWD version), at the same size as the Edge. The Freestyle is bigger and comes in at about 3,900 lbs. I think its because Volvo (Freestyle) and Nissan optimized the heck out of their bodies, still getting high crash test ratings at relatively light weight. At that weight, the Edge had better get a good crash test rating, for that extra mass. After all, what good is extra mass if it doesn't improve crash test ratings? It just wastes gasoline.
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Re: Edge Too Heavy -- A FreeStyle is Lighter & Bigger [driverdm] by coldcranker
Oct 30, 2006 (5:01 pm)
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Replying to: driverdm (Oct 25, 2006 10:39 pm)

"203hp/205 ft-lb does not compare with 265/255 any day of the week. The Edge may be heavier..."
 
Remember the 203hp/205ft-lb 3.0L Duratec V6 is a 24-valve, 60 degree, steel-chain, all-aluminum V6, and has improvements from 1995. The Edge will have a new 3.5L engine, with all the first and second year bugs in it for a while. While the 3.0L Duratec isn't the best V6 of all makers out there, its not bad at all. I like mine. Nissan's VQ engines are best, probably. And who thinks the Edge's 6-speed is better than the Freestyle's and Murano's CVT (infinite gear ratios)? Also, the Edge will probably do 0-60 in 8.2 seconds compared to the Freestyle's current 9.0 seconds, not a big deal when you consider you lose MPG in the Edge, a smaller vehicle.
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Re: Edge Too Heavy -- A FreeStyle is Lighter & Bigger [coldcranker] by coldcranker
Oct 30, 2006 (7:49 pm)
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Replying to: coldcranker (Oct 30, 2006 5:01 pm)

CarAndDriver mag has a good article on the Edge's luxury version, the Lincoln MKX: Test Drive Results
 
Note the complaints about weight (4600 lbs), which ruins braking and turning. (You're fine as long as you don't turn in that thing.) On the plus side, the Edge/MKX does get good MPG for its weight, 25 MPG in FWD form. The MKX goes 0-60 mph in 8.1 seconds, and a FWD Edge should do that in about 7.9 seconds. CarAndDriver clocked an AWD Freestyle at 8.2 seconds, meaning the "anemic" V6 in the Freestyle is only one tenth of a second slower to 60 mph than the Lincoln MKX (Edge clone)! How does the Freestyle equal the more powerful Edge in acceleration. 1. The Freestyle is several hundred pounds lighter. and, 2. The Freestyle's CVT is good at putting the power to the ground. Instead of the "good" Edge, I'd get the great Murano, CX-9, or Freestyle (bigger).
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Re: Edge Too Heavy -- A FreeStyle is Lighter & Bigger [coldcranker] by akirby
Oct 30, 2006 (7:59 pm)
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Replying to: coldcranker (Oct 30, 2006 7:49 pm)

The Freestyle, while very competent, just doesn't look as good as the Edge.
 
And who says the Murano is great? The Edge supposedly kicks it's butt performance wise according to the testing team that used the Murano as their benchmark.
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Re: Edge Too Heavy -- A FreeStyle is Lighter & Bigger [coldcranker] by driverdm
Oct 30, 2006 (9:26 pm)
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Replying to: coldcranker (Oct 30, 2006 7:49 pm)

We'll ahve to wait for the C&D Edge drive. Car adn Driver always finds a way to make cars accelerate faster than anybody else seems too. So we have to really wait and see. Who goes cornering in one of these CUV's anyway, unless you buy a CX-7. I mean, who corners in a Highlander or Pilot at a speed where it will matter? I don't see how the Murano is great. My cousin owns one, and for one thing, the Murano gets real expensive real quick. Secondly, the Murano's interior is not very nice. From what I have seen the Edge's looks better and has better packaging as well. Also the Murano takes premium gas where the Edge runs on regular.
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Re: Edge Too Heavy -- A FreeStyle is Lighter & Bigger [coldcranker] by driverdm
Oct 30, 2006 (9:35 pm)
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Replying to: coldcranker (Oct 30, 2006 7:49 pm)

"Note the complaints about weight (4600 lbs), which ruins braking and turning. (You're fine as long as you don't turn in that thing.)"
 
An exceprt taken from the same article that you posted a link too:
 
"In the handling department, the MKX delivers a very SUV-like 0.75 g on the skidpad. But the ride is nicely isolated from the road while still keeping body roll under reasonable control."
 
I found no where in the article that said anything about the cornering or braking being bad. It is just SUV like and many many people are confortable with that. Also, on the contrary in another article, I read that the braking was actually very good. I'd provide the link but you know how Edmunds is about linking to other auto sites. Suffice to say, it won't be a quick search since not that many have tested the Edge.
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Re: Edge Too Heavy -- A FreeStyle is Lighter & Bigger [driverdm] by tinycadon
Oct 31, 2006 (4:44 am)
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Replying to: driverdm (Oct 30, 2006 9:26 pm)

Also the Murano takes premium gas where the Edge runs on regular.
 
Here we go again! The Murano does not, I will repeat, DOES NOT "NEED" premium gas, it runs perfectly fine on regular gas without any pinging, I know 'cause I owned one and only used regular. But I do agree with you on the cornering issue, who does this in a suv? So all the people who are going to screem about better performance from the premium gas, who cares, these aren't sports cars!!!
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Re: Edge Too Heavy -- A FreeStyle is Lighter & Bigger [tinycadon] by baggs32
Oct 31, 2006 (5:23 am)
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Replying to: tinycadon (Oct 31, 2006 4:44 am)

The Murano does not, I will repeat, DOES NOT "NEED" premium gas
 
Yes we have been over this, and it does NEED premium to get the power you paid for. You NEED to let this go and understand that 99% of us are assuming that it NEEDS premium because 99% of us would want all of the power we paid for. Nissan recommends premium and the vast majority of Murano owners are using it I'm sure. I would even venture to guess that the number of Edge owners who will use the non-recommended premium fuel in their copy (for no apparent reason) will be about the same as the number of Murano owners who use the non-recommended regular 87 in theirs. Probably less than 5% IMO.
 
You my friend, are an exception to the rule. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
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Re: Edge Too Heavy -- A FreeStyle is Lighter & Bigger [baggs32] by tinycadon
Oct 31, 2006 (5:05 pm)
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Replying to: baggs32 (Oct 31, 2006 5:23 am)

I need to let it go, ok, sure. The problem is that these people do not distinguish between "need" and recommended for full horsepower outage. See, the CX-7 NEEDS premium fuel because it will damage the engine. Do you see the difference? You won't damage the Murano engine if you don't use premium. Now, as far as people wanting to get the full horsepower output they paid for, hey, I didn't drive it 110mph, but it could go that fast right, so if I paid for a Murano that can go 110mph I should go 110mph right? That's your logic not mine.
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Re: Edge Too Heavy -- A FreeStyle is Lighter & Bigger [tinycadon] by akirby
Oct 31, 2006 (5:20 pm)
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Replying to: tinycadon (Oct 31, 2006 5:05 pm)

When Nissan starts advertising hp and fuel mileage using regular gas, we'll stop pointing out that it needs premium. And the CX-7 has knock sensors just like the Murano and will run on regular without damage - but it's not recommended.

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