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A Freestyle is 200 lbs lighter than the Edge, while the Freestyle is a foot longer! This Edge is overweight. Thats a technology leap? Newer vehicles are supposed to retain stiffness and strength while getting lighter, not heavier. My Freestyle SE, FWD '05 model has more cargo room in the back (3rd seat, too) while its about the same roominess up front, all in a Volvo-derived chassis. Those thinking about an Edge should get a Freestyle and get better MPG as well (Freestyle gets 27 mpg highway, while the Edge gets 25 mpg highway). Sure the Edge has the edge with the new V6, but the old Duratec has evolved into a nice 203 hp / 205 ft-lb sweet machine in the Freestyle.
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Replying to: coldcranker (Oct 25, 2006 10:12 pm)
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Replying to: coldcranker (Oct 25, 2006 10:12 pm) If they put the 3.5l V6 in the Freestyle, we're there! |
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Replying to: garandman (Oct 28, 2006 3:23 am) The newer technologies incorporated into the Edge will be a considerable leap over the Freestyle. The Volvo frame in the Freestyle, for me, has too stiff a ride. The small 203 hp Duratec has a hard enough time lugging around 5 passengers in the Ford 500/Montego..now, it's being taxed more with the extra weight of 2 more passengers! The extra 2 mpg in the Freestyle is a non-issue for people considering the Edge, as is that tiny, hard to get in and out of, 3rd row! (More for children than adults) That's not the market Ford is after! The Toyato Sienna, which is in direct competition with the Freestyle, is heads and shoulders above it in every way, as will the Edge! Ford has finally realized, that to compete in a world class market, the Edge has to be world class. Something the Freestyle, IMHO, does not achieve! However, buyers will be the judge. Ford is betting the ranch on the Edge!!!! The billions spent on R&D, upgrading the plant where it's built and hiring the head of QC away from Toyota, is a barometer of how commited Ford is to making a vehicle that will truly be a winner!! VB |
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Replying to: porciniman (Oct 28, 2006 7:04 am) Have you even been in the Freestyle's rear seat? It's probably the largest/ most accessible 3rd row of any car in that segment. Sure, it's not quite as funtional as say, the rear seat in a Honda Odessey or Toyota Sienna, but those are minivans after all. "The Toyato Sienna, which is in direct competition with the Freestyle, is heads and shoulders above it in every way, as will the Edge! " While some people may cross shop these two vehicles, they are not really in direct compeition. One is a crossover and one is a minivan. The Sienna does smoke the Ford FreeSTAR minivan, but that's another issue. I think it's smart for now for Ford to have both the Edge and the Freestyle on their lots. One is 5 passenger and one is 7; they are dynamically different and have significantly different styling. With all the specialization going on in this segment they're going to have to have some overlap in these vehicles; there's no way around it. If the Edge ends up stealing all the Freestyle sales, it would probably not be a big issue to add a third row to the Edge, or update and differentialte the Freestyle in the next revision. With Fords larger "Fairlane" people mover on the horizon, it seems there might not be room for the Edge, Freestyle, Escape, Explorer, and Fairlane all in the same lineup though.
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Replying to: frizz2112 (Oct 28, 2006 11:58 am) 5 seats - Escape / Mariner / Tribute 5 seats - CX-7 5 seats - Edge 6 or 7 seats - Freestyle 5, 6 or 7 seats - Explorer / Mountaineer 7 seats - CX-9 5, 6 or 7 seats - Expedition / Navigator I received the electronic copy of the December Car & Driver issue yesterday, and it contains a full test of the Edge (plus the magazine has a totally new format). |
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Replying to: porciniman (Oct 28, 2006 7:04 am) The newer technologies incorporated into the Edge will be a considerable leap over the Freestyle." Not going to happen, since the Edge is a bloated Ford Fusion chassis. Its incredibly heavy for its dimensions (by about 400 lbs or so), making it less than a sports car. Its high center of gravity won't help either. I just don't see how the Edge will be highly rated by consumers, and Car and Driver, Road and Track, Motor Trend... we'll see. I'm hoping I'm wrong about it since Ford needs a winner.
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Replying to: coldcranker (Oct 29, 2006 7:14 pm) Compared to what? From various sources: A BMW X3 curb weight is 4,012 - with a 3l engine. A Subaru Tribeca is 4,210 - with a 3l engine. A Honda Pilot weighs 4,453 - with a 3.5l engine. A BMW X5 weighs 4,696 lbs - with a 3l engine. A Volkswagon Taureg weighs 5,086 lbs - with a 3.2l V6. Depending on who you believe, the Edge weighs between 4,098 and 4,282 lbs - with larger dimensions and a 3.5l engine and more horsepower than most of the above. They're all piggies. The reviews I've read on the Edge thus far have been extremely favorable - even some of the non-mainstream guys that were prepared to hate it for all the reasons you describe. But, they don't - they like it. Seriously, do you know anyone who is considering a sports car but might buy a CUV after reading a review in Motor Trend? Those zany guys who in 2006 named, as "Truck of the Year" the Honda Ridgeline?
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Replying to: garandman (Oct 28, 2006 3:23 am) The rumor from a reliable Ford employee who frequents these forums is that the Freestyle and Five Hundred will be getting the Duratec35, along with a Fusion/Edge-like facelift, for an early MY2008 run. IIRC you'll see the new versions of them sometime in the Spring of 2007 as '08 models. Edmunds has posted some spy shots of the Freestyle with the Fusion/Edge grille as well. |
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