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2005 T&C Touring
by fish8
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Aug 28, 2006 (6:01 am)
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We bought our van in May of 2005. We have almost 21,500 miles and we have had a couple of issues/problems.
Most of the problems were addressed by the dealer. But, we still have a creaking sound coming from under the van. We enjoy the van, but wonder how it will hold up in the long run!
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Re: 2005 T&C Touring [fish8]
by dadto3
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Aug 31, 2006 (5:30 am)
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Replying to: fish8 (Aug 28, 2006 6:01 am)
I just took my 2005 T&C in yesterday for service. They cleaned and lubed the sway bar and now I have a horrible creaking sound coming from under the front end of the van. Is this the same problem you're having? It's going back in tomorrow to the dealer for service to try and correct the problem. Also have an annoying high pitched squeak in the front dash that needs to be fixed.
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Re: 2005 T&C Touring [dadto3]
by fish8
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Sep 01, 2006 (5:22 am)
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Replying to: dadto3 (Aug 31, 2006 5:30 am)
The creaking that the dealer has "attempted" to fix many times seems to be coming from in between the two fron seats. We have the removable center "console" or storage unit and its ounds like it is coming from under that. I got tired of bringing it back in after their many attempts. So, maybe when I need to get the van serviced I will bring it back in to get looked at. They have doen the lubing you referenced as well as replacing an engine mount and other small items on or near the exhaust system.
The noise occurs when accelrating form a stand still. A creaking is the only sound explanation I have......
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Re: 2005 T&C Touring [fish8]
by badgerfan
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Sep 01, 2006 (6:31 am)
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Replying to: fish8 (Sep 01, 2006 5:22 am)
Since the center console is removable, have you removed it to see if the creaking ceases? It may just be a creak internal to the console, or maybe related to how the console is attached to the floor.
I don't have any experience with these consoles, don't have one in our 2006 GC, so I am not familar how it latches into the floor, but maybe the problem is at this latch area?
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Re: 2005 T&C Touring [fish8]
by dadto3
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Sep 01, 2006 (6:33 am)
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Replying to: fish8 (Sep 01, 2006 5:22 am)
Thanks for the reply. My van is now back into the dealer today...whatever they did earlier this week has now caused a 2nd creaking/squeaking noise. Hopefully they can figure out what it is. I don't have the center console in my T&C. The latest noise happens on acceleration and when I come to a stop. Guess we'll see what the latest verdict is. And to add to the fun, my other car is at the Ford dealer today for repairs. When it rains it pours!
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Re: 2005 T&C Touring [dadto3]
by fish8
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Sep 05, 2006 (5:28 am)
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Replying to: dadto3 (Sep 01, 2006 6:33 am)
Please let me know what they find. Our van was creaking pretty loud this weekend. I will probably have the dealer look at it when I get it serviced next.
I don't think the center removable console is causing the problem. When the van was in for service about 3 weeks ago, the creaking was almost completely gone after I got the van back. But, within a week, the creaking was back. I noticed that when we turn at slow speeds, it sounds like the suspension creaks or pops as well.
Also, I drove a neighbor's 2003 T&C Limited and there was NO creaking coming from their van. It actually felt more solid than ours. I also noticed that their van (w/ 74,000 miles) accelerates much better than out T&C Touring (21,500 miles). The only thing I can think of is either when the stow-n-go was added they reduced the HP of the 3.8, therefore reducing acceleration or their engine is more worn in than ours......I really don't know!
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Re: 2005 T&C Touring [fish8]
by shipo
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Sep 05, 2006 (5:59 am)
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Replying to: fish8 (Sep 05, 2006 5:28 am)
The lower power of the new engine is probably the main reason for the acceleration difference; however, another possibility is the transmission. The 4-Speed units in these vans are "Learning" transmissions and as such, they will adapt their gear change and torque converter lockup timing steps to the individual drivers. It could be that your neighbors routinely drive harder/accelerate faster than y'all do and their transmission has learned to holder a lower gear (or leave the torque converter unlocked) longer.
Just a thought.
Best Regards,
Shipo
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Re: 2005 T&C Touring [fish8]
by badgerfan
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Sep 05, 2006 (7:24 am)
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Replying to: fish8 (Sep 05, 2006 5:28 am)
Your 2005 may weigh a bit more than a 2003 as well, due to the Stow and Go seating, and the pockets to accept them, as well as structural reinforcements required to improve crash test results.
Additionally, your perceptions of lower acceleration rates for your 2005 may be more perception than reality. The noise levels on the Stow and Go GC's and T&C's have been reduced from the earlier generation, and it is surprising how much a lower noise level on acceleration can fool one into believing that the van has less power.
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Re: 2005 T&C Touring [badgerfan]
by fish8
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Sep 06, 2006 (4:33 am)
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Replying to: badgerfan (Sep 05, 2006 7:24 am)
You're thoughts could be correct. Now, if only you guys could figure out why the van creaks like it has 150K miles on it....
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Re: 2005 T&C Touring [badgerfan]
by heavydoe
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Sep 06, 2006 (5:04 pm)
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Replying to: badgerfan (Sep 05, 2006 7:24 am)
From what I understand the vans have the same power as before. The EPA changed the way that they calculate horse power and under thier new formula it comes out as 205 instead of 215.
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