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Jeep Liberty Diesel EGR Problems

108 messages,  Last post on Mar 28, 2009 at 5:29 PM

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Re: Let's get Chrysler/Jeep to do somehting about this [ncmountains1] by synlubes
May 23, 2007 (10:43 am)
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Replying to: ncmountains1 (Oct 31, 2006 4:24 am)

2005 crd liberty egr valve lost at eighteen thousand miles vin 1j46l485w635602 also torque converter and pump pcm and some other thing moor concerned about the egr valve should be sum extended warranty love my crd mike herold synlubes
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Liberty CRD EGR valve bypass or delete? by mwweim
Jul 07, 2007 (9:03 pm)
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Newbie here.
 
I am considering purchasing a Liberty CRD but have some concerns regarding various recurring issues such as EGR valve replacements.
 
I currently drive a 2002 VW Jetta TDI that I have made some standard modifications that other TDI owners regularly make. One of these modifications is removal of the EGR valve, EGR cooler and replacing the EGR valve with a straight through race pipe. This solves several problems including clogged EGR valves and intake manifolds. You wouldn't believe how much gunk was built up inside the EGR valve and intake manifold after 60,000 miles.
 
A subsequent ECU tuning to increase boost pressures, fueling, rev limiter, speed limiter and EGR delete to remove a related CEL worked wonders on the performance. FYI, TDI's in the German market don't have the EGR system and they have far less problems.
 
I live in Wisconsin which does not require diesels to go through emissions inspection/testing. Even if it did, it would still pass and most inspectors aren't intelligent enough to notice the difference. I wouldn't consider this modification while the vehicle was under warranty, but after the warranty was up I sure wouldn't be taking it back to the stealership to continually purchase/replace an EGR valve.
 
I also see that InMotion Tuning offers a performance ECU tuning that among other things, turns down the EGR setting.
 
Have any of you modified, bypassed or deleted the EGR valve or perhaps had a performance tune that took the EGR valve out of the picture?
 
If so, what has your experience been since the modification?
 
How difficult is it to remove/bypass the EGR valve on a Liberty CRD?
 
Thanks - Mark
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Re: Jeep Liberty Diesel EGR issues [nescosmo] by flyingpole
Nov 16, 2007 (12:11 pm)
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Replying to: nescosmo (May 06, 2007 7:03 am)

I have a 2005 CRD...have 68,000 miles on it. You state "ARE you blowing it nose every week?" I have no idea what you are saying here. What am I supposed to be doing that I'm not? It sounds like my CRD has a nose and also has a cold! Seriously, what is this process.
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Re: Jeep Liberty Diesel EGR issues [flyingpole] by caribou1
Nov 16, 2007 (12:51 pm)
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Replying to: flyingpole (Nov 16, 2007 12:11 pm)

European common rail diesel engines have small displacement, they are fitted in most cars here because a great part of the distilled gasoline goes to NA and we keep the diesel fuel.
EGR issues have been identified a long time ago and pushing the engine to it's limit for a very short period of time is a known remedy when you produce black smoke. When the turbo gets into action under full load at low engine speed it produces a blasting sound similar to a person blowing it's nose. This is where the 'nose' came from and the remedy is explained by Renault and local 'road angels'.
What it does is simply build up more pressure in both intake and exhaust manifolds. This helps closing the valve when it's hesitating, but cannot help much more. By doing it once a week you expect to stay away from trouble.
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Re: Jeep Liberty Diesel EGR issues [nescosmo] by crdjon
Apr 17, 2008 (9:01 pm)
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Replying to: nescosmo (May 08, 2007 10:44 am)

Changing filters can make a big difference, expecially when the manufacturer forgets to put the second lift pump in the tank as was originally designed inyour CP3 fuel system, You only got the pump up the front.
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Re: Jeep Liberty Diesel EGR issues [crdjon] by gti338
Aug 11, 2008 (5:41 pm)
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Replying to: crdjon (Apr 17, 2008 9:01 pm)

I figured it out! This is how I solved my egr problems. I went to the dealer and paid nearly $700 for them to install a new one. I did none of the blowing nose stuff etc. and sure enough I needed another 11000 miles later. Guess what the part itself has a 12000 mile warranty. So I get a new one free and as long as it breaks again within 12000 I'm good. I'm not going to ever use the new diesel fuel because I hear it helps the EGR and will probably push me over the 12000 limit. Ridiculous isn't it Daimler? Oh well eat it.
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Re: Jeep Liberty Diesel EGR issues [gti338] by caribou1
Aug 12, 2008 (4:08 am)
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Replying to: gti338 (Aug 11, 2008 5:41 pm)

What's $700 for you ? People have to pay twice that amount outside the US.
It's not Daimler that's ridiculous, it's simply to choose diesel fuel nowadays
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jeep liberty crd squeeling sound by teddiej
Aug 28, 2008 (6:57 am)
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help! when I turn my wheels hard to the left or right, I get an extremely loud squeel.
any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Jeep Liberty Diesel EGR issues [gti338] by siberia
Sep 06, 2008 (6:37 am)
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Replying to: gti338 (Aug 11, 2008 5:41 pm)

The "nose blowing" does nothing for your EGR valve. Running high throttle once in a while causes the vanes in the variable nozzle turbo to fully articulate so they don't stick and keep moving over full range. If you want to articulate the EGR valve, run at 2,500 RPM out of overdrive once in a while for a few miles to fully open and clean out the valve.
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Re: Jeep Liberty Diesel EGR issues [siberia] by caribou1
Sep 08, 2008 (11:28 am)
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Replying to: siberia (Sep 06, 2008 6:37 am)

Siberia, the "nose blowing" was the remedy to get the Renault vehicles back on the road when the valve is blocked in the open position and when the exhaust pours and puffs black smoke. I noticed the recent common rails don't have the same behavior
Mine still works fine without the EGR valve.

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