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Re: Regular vs. Premium [jim314] by jim314
Mar 15, 2006 (3:13 pm)
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Replying to: jim314 (Mar 15, 2006 9:44 am)

I don't believe the N/A 2.4L V70 uses the "Atkinson" cycle like the Toyota Prius. The Prius has a nominal compression ratio of 13.5, but still uses regular gas as far as I know. The Atkinson cycle reportedly lowers the effective CR by allowing some intake air to flow back into the intake manifold. What I don't understand is why some of the fuel wouldn't flow back too. I assume the IC engine in the Prius is not direct injection (i.e. not directly into the cylinder), but I don't know.
 
From Wikipedia:
 
"The Atkinson cycle engine is a type of Internal combustion engine invented by James Atkinson in 1882. The Atkinson cycle is designed to provide efficiency at the expense of power.
 
The Atkinson cycle allows the intake, compression, power, and exhaust strokes of the four-stroke cycle to occur in a single turn of the crankshaft. Owing to the linkage, the expansion ratio is greater than the compression ratio, leading to greater efficiency than with engines using the alternative Otto cycle.
 
The Atkinson cycle may also refer to a four stroke engine in which the intake valve is held open longer than normal to allow a reverse flow of intake air into the intake manifold. This reduces the effective compression ratio and, when combined with an increased stroke and/or reduced combustion chamber volume, allows the expansion ratio to exceed the compression ratio while retaining a normal compression pressure. This is desirable for improved fuel economy because the compression ratio in a spark ignition engine is limited by the octane rating of the fuel used. A high expansion ratio delivers a longer power stroke, allowing more expansion of the combustion gases and reducing the amount of heat wasted in the exhaust. This makes for a more efficient engine.
 
The disadvantage of the four-stroke Atkinson cycle engine versus the more common Otto cycle engine is reduced power density. Because a smaller portion of the intake stroke is devoted to compressing the intake air, an Atkinson cycle engine does not intake as much air as would a similarly-designed and sized Otto cycle engine.
 
Four stroke engines of this type with this same type of intake valve motion but with forced induction (supercharging) are known as Miller cycle engines.
 
Multiple production vehicles use Atkinson cycle engines:
 
Toyota Prius hybrid electric (front-wheel-drive)
Ford Escape hybrid electric (front- and four-wheel drive)
Toyota Highlander hybrid electric (front- and four-wheel drive)
Lexus RX400h hybrid electric (front- and four-wheel drive)
In all of these vehicles, the lower power level of the Atkinson cycle engine is compensated for through the use of electric motors in a hybrid electric drive train. These electric motors can be used independent of, or in combination with, the Atkinson cycle engine."
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1998 V70 starting issues by tamula
Mar 23, 2006 (7:35 pm)
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I just purchased a 1998 volvo V70 wagon. Word to the wise make sure someone checks the starter or electrical system. I am new to the Volvo family. My purchase is only a week old and this morning my car would not start. AAA provided a jump-start. My altenator and battery both checked out fine. It was been on a electrical digital reading device to come out as pass. I did not leave any lights on inside. After the jump my car was just fine. Until I took it out again things was going status quo. It has been at least one hour before starting the car up again and it almost did not start again. Someone suggested a starter problem. This is costing more money then I expected. Any suggestions out there???
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Re: 1998 V70 starting issues [tamula] by jim314
Mar 23, 2006 (8:06 pm)
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Replying to: tamula (Mar 23, 2006 7:35 pm)

Could be a lot of things besides the starter. Some possibilities moving from the key to the starter are: the ignition switch, the starter relay, wiring from the relay to the starter, power line to starter or ground wire from the starter.
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Re: 1998 V70 starting issues [tamula] by jim314
Mar 24, 2006 (11:41 am)
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Replying to: tamula (Mar 23, 2006 7:35 pm)

A relative's van had a problem like that and it finally was fixed with a relatively inexpensive repair of a "ground connection". The shop didn't charge for this repair because they had previously diagnosed it as a bad starter and starter relay and replaced those for sizeable $$$. I was handling the repair and when I picked-up the car it started correctly.
 
On the way home I stopped and then it wouldn't start. The shop paid for the tow back to their facility. They kept it some more and then announced that it was another module and charged $$ for that. I picked up the car and it started perfectly. I drove it around the block and back to the shop, where I shut it off. It wouldn't start. This time they found that wiggling the ground wire set from the battery while I was trying to start it made the starter go on, and they supposedly repaired a wire. That was a year ago and it had worked ever since. It could have just been a loose connection all the time or it could have been a damaged wire. This is a 92 Plymouth Voyager driven in a hot climate and very poorly maintained by this relative.
 
I had tried to jump across the starter in my diagnosis of the problem, but the starter was buried under the intake manifold on the back side of the engine. I don't know where the starter is on the v70, but you can probably get an aftermarket repair manual and try jumping at the starter relay or starter, or even better across the proper contacts under the steering wheel with the key in the ignition swiched to the run position. But if the problem is intermittant it is hard for an amateur to draw conclusions.
 
On my 91 Spirit the problem was the ignition switch, and on our 96 Volvo 850 wgn it was the starter itself. A shop put in a rebuilt Volvo starter for some serious $$$ and the problem was fixed. My wife later totalled the 850 wgn and got an '04 V70 2.4L base model.
 
Before I changed the ign switch I drove my 91 Spirit for a short while as follows: insert key in the ignition and make sure tranny is in neutral; get out and open hood and using a piece of 12 ga copper house wire momentarily jump across the appropriate contacts on the starter relay, activating starter; shut hood and drive off. If I had killed the engine in stop-and-go traffic it would have been a dangerous situation. Having a car that will not start reliably is an unsafe condition.
 
My nephew had an intermittant non-starting problem with his 2001 Jeep Grqand Cherokee and as I understand it it was nothing more than corroded battery connections, though the dealer charged $280 for towing, diagnosis, a new battery and perhaps new "cable terminations" (?! I wasn't there to get the story from the repair shop.)
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Re: 1998 V70 starting issues [tamula] by jim314
Mar 24, 2006 (12:30 pm)
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Replying to: tamula (Mar 23, 2006 7:35 pm)

Note that jumping across the wrong connections could possibly cause major damage. I was willing to do this on my 91 Dodge Spirit but I would hesitate to do this on a valuable new car. If I thought I had the wiring properly understood, I might do it but there is a risk.
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Re: 1998 V70 starting issues [jim314] by tamula
Mar 25, 2006 (12:38 pm)
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Replying to: jim314 (Mar 24, 2006 12:30 pm)

Thanks to everyone with all the wonderful advice. It was a loose connection. They changed connectors that only cost .99 cents. Just FYI, if anyone has the same problem many repair shops knowing the part cost less than a dollar will try to charge $45 to $50 for the labor. My shop did not charge me;-) I also through word of mouth found a repair shop that will repair volvo at a much lower price. Finally, helpful information, auto zone, will do free battery and digital tests.
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Re: 1998 V70 starting issues [tamula] by jim314
Mar 25, 2006 (12:50 pm)
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Replying to: tamula (Mar 25, 2006 12:38 pm)

Could you describe what part it was and what it connects to? Was it in the ground or was it in the +12V wiring?
 
I'm now wondering about the supposed bad starter on our 1996 850 wgn.
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Re: Regular vs. Premium [jim314] by dawgz83944
Nov 22, 2006 (10:04 pm)
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Replying to: jim314 (Mar 15, 2006 9:44 am)

I seriously hope your kidding???!!! In a way you are right your octane requirements are a measure of your compression ratio and oddly enough your cooling system. On a reverse flow engine (not sure if the Volvo is that) where the heads are cooled first (Chevy LT1 is like this) you can run 87 octane since the heads are not hot. The compression ratio comment is what disturbed me more. A N/A motor (non-turbo) will have to be 10.5:1 there abouts. A turbo motor pressurizes the intake air to the tune of 10-18 psi depending on your setup thus the compresstion will go from 8.5-9.0:1 to higher than a N/A motor. NEVER run 87 octane on a turbo motor. On a N/A motor 87 is ok but you will get more power and better mileage from 89 octane. I ran 87 because on my 01 T5 because of the ignorant dealership I bought it from. It knocked and pinged until the computer removed timing from it. The bottom line is 91 octano ONLY for TURBO models.
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Re: 1998 V70 starting issues [tamula] by blckislandguy
Dec 21, 2006 (7:34 pm)
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Replying to: tamula (Mar 25, 2006 12:38 pm)

Sorry for the late response, but get a grip. I would love to know how the cost of a part, however small, has anything to do with the time it takes to diagnose and install it. Certainly $50 or so is small change for this.
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Re: 1998 V70 starting issues [blckislandguy] by pf_flyer HOST
Dec 22, 2006 (4:03 am)
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Replying to: blckislandguy (Dec 21, 2006 7:34 pm)

Yea, those hourly labor rates DO tend to add to your repair bills

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