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Re: Tire question [pounder2] by lilengineerboy
Oct 29, 2006 (2:21 pm)
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Replying to: pounder2 (Oct 29, 2006 2:49 pm)

You are correct, the compound is different to deal with the colder temperatures, thats what I was talking about with respect to it being designed for colder temps. The edges of true winter tires are indeed different. Fine cuts in the tread are designed to help the car grip snowy or icy surfaces better.
While its good to know you feel invincible in your AWD car, I wanted to point out that it offers little advantage when trying to do things other than accelerate, like STOPPING or TURNING. With summer tires, you will be even more at a disadvantage since you don't even have the tread compounds afforded by "all season" tires. Whats worse is once you do spin off in the ditch, your summer tires wont grip to get you back on the road, and everyone can watch all 4 of your tires spinning in the snow.
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Re: Tire question [pounder2] by krzyss
Oct 30, 2006 (4:49 am)
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Replying to: pounder2 (Oct 29, 2006 2:49 pm)

I am waiting for a mesage stating that Mazda AWD "sucks" because you lost control of the car in the snow with summer tires. The last part, I bet, you will not mention.
 
Summer tires can/will get dangerous with temperature drop. You need no snow. Dry and cold will render them almost useless.
 
Wishing you best of luck.
 
Krzys
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Re: Tire question [krzyss] by pegasuszz
Oct 30, 2006 (7:28 am)
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Replying to: krzyss (Oct 30, 2006 4:49 am)

Does anyone here have experience with summer tires used through winter? Good enough for cautious, limited use, or simply an accident waiting to happen? One 10mph bump would be a 4 figure repair, followed by higher insurance rates. The trouble is it would be a considerable expense to have spare wheel/tire set for a leased vehicle, and I do not have storage space. I believe the lease requires original model tires when the car is returned, so I can't just swap. I don't _want_ to drive through a winter on summer tires, there just may not be a practical choice.
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Re: Tire question [pegasuszz] by lilengineerboy
Oct 30, 2006 (7:38 am)
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Replying to: pegasuszz (Oct 30, 2006 7:28 am)

The trouble is it would be a considerable expense to have spare wheel/tire set for a leased vehicle, and I do not have storage space. I believe the lease requires original model tires when the car is returned, so I can't just swap.
 
Double check that, usually the lease calls for 4 matched tires but not necessarily what was originally on there. While it is more of a pain, you could have your snows and summers mounted and unmounted on the same rims.
Alternatively, I would look for some regular Mazda6 wheels (cheeap)if they clear the brakes.
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Re: Tire question [pegasuszz] by krzyss
Oct 30, 2006 (7:50 am)
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Replying to: pegasuszz (Oct 30, 2006 7:28 am)

I think I read a review of BMW M5 with original summer tires.
It dusted when reviewer was dining. The car was unable to move from parking spot. M5 is not AWD but it does have traction control. I guess there was no traction.
 
Krzys
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Re: Tire question [pegasuszz] by mz6greyghost
Oct 30, 2006 (8:08 am)
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Replying to: pegasuszz (Oct 30, 2006 7:28 am)

Accident waiting to happen, plain and simple. I wouldn't risk a "short trip" at all, considering that if an accident does happen, some insurance companies will place you at fault for driving on summer tires in the winter.
 
If you don't want winter tires/wheels, a good set of all-seasons will work just fine for you, and as stated previously, I'm sure the lease calls for 4 matched, evenly-worn tires, so all-seasons won't kill your lease.
 
For all-seasons, I've heard the Pirelli P Zero Nero M&S are a good choice...
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Re: Tire question [mz6greyghost] by jeffyscott
Oct 30, 2006 (8:45 am)
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Replying to: mz6greyghost (Oct 30, 2006 8:08 am)

Even if the lease did call for OEM tires, he could put the all seasons on and store the summer tires. Then put the original tires back on when it is time to turn the car in.
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Re: Tire question [pegasuszz] by ccletzgo
Oct 30, 2006 (9:28 am)
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Replying to: pegasuszz (Oct 30, 2006 7:28 am)

An accident waiting to happen. Believe me!
 
car purchased 12/23/05............Salt Lake City, Utah
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Re: Tire question by monkeymobile
Oct 30, 2006 (9:28 am)
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Replying to: krzyss (Oct 30, 2006 4:49 am)

I compare the MS6 to the VW R32 in this regard.
 
When I had the R32, I was a regular on VWVortex.com. There were hoards of posts warning about driving the R32 in snow/ice without changing to winter, or at least truly all-season tires; there were even a few "I learned my lesson the hard way" posts. The R32, factory equipped with Goodyear Eagle F1s, came with a strong warning about driving in snow/ice.
 
The R32 was unflappable in the wet, but from everything I read, it was a disaster waiting to happen in snow/ice unless the tires were changed. The R32 and the MS6 have similar specs: both have a Haldex that stays in FWD 90% of the time, both have similar power to weight ratios, both come stock with aggressive performance tires.
 
So why would the MS6 be any different than the R32 in its need for winter tires? If the MS6 were full-time AWD, it would be a better winter car, but AWD doesn't assure a contact patch for braking and turning.
 
-Mister Winky
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Dont be fooled by AWD & stay w/summer tires in WINTER! by ccletzgo
Oct 30, 2006 (9:39 am)
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Replying to: krzyss (Oct 30, 2006 4:49 am)

"Summer tires can/will get dangerous with temperature drop. You need no snow. Dry and cold will render them almost useless"
 
Absolutely Agree! In all the cars and all the winter driving, I had the scariest experience ever last winter in this AWD car with the summer tires on it. All four tires spinning and the driver has NO control what so ever. Tires are hard as a rock and may as well be blown up tight inner-tubes.

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