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Lexus LS 460, Sedan
Dec 09, 2012 (9:24 pm)
I really like my 09 LS460 - but even in the 12s, Lexus is a little behind the technology of even Ford now. My 7 Fords in my fleet have SYNC which does an amazing job of Bluetooth for your phone, audio stream from an Ipod or smartphone, etc. No bluetooth audio streaming available yet on the Lexus. Maybe the 13 will have it?
Admittedly, what the Lexus has, is better and works longer and more reliably than most other brands, but it doesn't always have everything I can get elsewhere, today.
Dec 16, 2012 (11:31 am)
Hello -- Can someone with Manheim access please post a list of recent 2010-2011 LS 460 SWB sales? Manheim PA, NJ if possible ?
Thank you in advance.
Dec 17, 2012 (11:40 am)
2010
For Week Ending Dec 12
Above Average Below Oct 2012 Jun 2012 Dec 2011
Sale Price $47,226 $42,697 $38,168 $44,789 $40,433 $0
Odometer 20,481 40,961 61,442 26,610 65,690 0
Total Sold All 17
2011
For Week Ending Dec 12
Above Average Below Oct 2012 Jun 2012 Dec 2011
Sale Price $53,600 $48,490 $43,380 $50,480 $53,033 $57,525
Odometer 8,723 17,446 26,169 16,199 18,202 8,351
Total Sold All 7 5 3 4
#285 of 300 Re: Gadgets [nvbanker]
by edarte
Dec 20, 2012 (3:50 pm)
Not sure I am understanding your point but I think my 2011 LS has Bluetooth audio streaming. At least I can connect to my iPhone 4s via Bluetooth and play my music through the car's sound system. There are limited controls (e.g. can pause and play music but cannot select specific songs from my playlists). If I connect the phone via USB then I can scroll through a list of music on the cars display but it is still relatively crude compared to the iPhone's capability.
#286 of 300 Transmission problem?
by braffel
Dec 21, 2012 (7:03 am)
My LS460 just turned 90,000 and all of the sudden, instead of smooth gear changes, I'm getting lagging response, then sudden whiplash- type acceleration.
Anyone have the same problem?
And if so, did it end up being a transmission problem, or a computer chip problem?
#287 of 300 Re: Gadgets [edarte]
by nvbanker
Dec 30, 2012 (1:53 pm)
Sounds like they added and upgraded functions to the entertainment system that my 09 lacked. Glad to hear that. Thank you.
#288 of 300 Re: Gadgets [nvbanker]
by aardman
Dec 30, 2012 (11:27 pm)
My 10 ls sport with levinson has blue tooth streaming from my iPad and iPhone as well. May be only available with the premium audio?
#289 of 300 Re: Gadgets [aardman]
by nvbanker
Jan 18, 2013 (11:59 am)
I have Levinson, but none of those bluetooth streaming capabilities. The 10 was obviously upgraded. DAMN, now I need a new one!!!
#290 of 300 Traded my 2013 Toyota Avalon in after 2300 miles É
by ncee
Feb 03, 2013 (3:03 pm)
wait there is more.
I traded it in on a 2012 Avalon, which is much more "Premium Luxury Sedan" then the 2013 (in my opinion). In any case. After all is said and done, I should have purchased the used LS 460 that I REALLY wanted:(
Oh, I highlighted "Premium Luxury Sedan" because that is what Toyota claims the New Avalon is?
- Sports Mode Controls
- Sports Paddle Shifters?
- Sports Ride?
- Low Profile tires?
- Seats that have much greater bolstering for sharp turns?
So a few questions if I may.
- What is maintenance like for those with a used LS, that they have serviced at a local service center or Toyota dealer? I ask, because I'm guessing it's a lot less money for service work there, instead of the Lexus dealer?
- What will I like about trading my 2012 Avalon in on a LS?
- What might I not like?
- What kind of things should I watch for, Consider?
- Insurance costs?
Is it worth it, or should I just stop while I'm ahead, and keep the Avalon (for now:))
I put on about 35,000 + miles a year (in sales), so the comfort and quietness is a big deal with me.
The 2013 Avalon was nice but it was
- Smaller inside
- Higher road noise (likely from the 18" tires / rims
- not as comfortable as the 2012 Avalon
- Smaller trunk opening on 2013
- Space Saver Spare on 2013
- No Reclining rear seats on 2013 (we go on 5 - 8 vacations a year with passengers)
While the 2013 Avalon has a hell of a Tech Package, quiet wipers, great Fit, Finish and Trim that I will and do miss, it's missed on other important area for me. I will say, I wasn't a big fan of all the colors for the trim, and or the fact they were raised panels.
In any case, your thoughts and suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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#291 of 300 Re: Traded my 2013 Toyota Avalon in after 2300 miles É [ncee]
by nvbanker
Feb 03, 2013 (5:38 pm)
Happy to opine. I have had 3 LSes, 02, 05 and my current 09. Obviously, I love 'em, and each one has been better than the one before. I have 61,000 miles on my 09, and not a single repair has been needed. I have had Lexus do all the service work - the free loaner and the way they treat me is well worth the little extra I pay for the service. It's usually $140 for the nomal service and inspection. On certain mileage intervals, it's more. The 60,000 mile service is the biggest - it's $1200. But that's only every 60,000. It wears very well, holds value very well, and is the most comfortable car I've ever owned, and I've had Mercedes, Volvo and Cadillac & Lincoln before. The Mercedes are really the Driver's car, but SO expensive to service and fix, and they need a LOT of fixing. Cadillac and Lincoln are no longer Luxury to me, they are Near Luxury, Cadillac is Sport now. Not for me at this age. Lexus is pure luxury, but the 460 has just a little sport feel to it that the 430s didn't have. The Avalon is similar but less powerful, FWD and misses the details that Lexus sweats - and they are substantial.
I fully and unreservedly recommend the LS. Stay away frokm the 07, first year they had a few "issues". If you can afford it, I'd get the 10 or newer. They had some nice upgrades in the Technology package starting in 10. Get the Mark Levinson sound, definitely worth it. If you want reclining seats, you'll need the Ultra Luxury package. They are a good buy used, and as solid as a bank vault. If you can afford it, I'd trade the Avalon for one, myself. If I couldn't afford the LS, I'd get the GS or the ES. Also, amazing cars.