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Replying to: houdini1 (Nov 03, 2009 7:15 pm)  What would PETA think? |
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She opened Thursday's work session reading from a letter from John Rowe, Chief Executive of Exelon, one of the country's largest utilities. Calling the bill written by Boxer and Kerry "an excellent starting point," Rowe wrote, "We urge you as chairman, as well as your colleagues, to take the steps necessary to order the bill reported by the committee so that climate legislation can be considered by the full Senate." Baucus' vote against the bill reflected the difficulties ahead in crafting a measure that would attract the 60 votes needed for passage by the Senate. As an influential moderate Democrat, Baucus laid out changes he would seek, including a weaker carbon-reduction target. Other Midwestern and Southern senators from states heavily reliant on coal will seek their own changes, which could upset liberals now supporting the bill. They know the coal generators will pay more and they will pay less using NG and Nuclear. |
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 03, 2009 5:52 pm) Aw, come on guys. We're not all looney. Our government is, (are ?), for sure but most of us just want to live in peace and get rid of our The thing about beef and methane is just a pre-cursor to slapping an enviro-tax on cattle. Please God they don't ever realise that oxygen is dangerous. 
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Replying to: alltorque (Nov 05, 2009 8:36 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 05, 2009 8:38 am) |
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Replying to: alltorque (Nov 05, 2009 8:36 am)
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While I believe it is technically correct, this just does not seem right to me: When you burn one gallon of gasoline (about 6 pounds) you generate about 20 pounds of CO2 !! While you are not really generating the oxygen molecules, the carbon molecules that are released bond with oxygen already in the atmosphere. Oxygen weights a little over 3 times as much as carbon, so the total is around 20 pounds. Doesn't seem right, but that is how they measure it !! |
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Replying to: houdini1 (Nov 12, 2009 3:20 pm)  I hesitate to post this one; guess we'll be talking about the weather after all. "Climate scientists normally are wary of associating daily weather events to longer term climate change, but new research does just that by showing that daily record high temperatures across the continental U.S. occurred twice as often as record lows over the last decade." Warning sign: Record highs are double the lows (MSNBC) My wife is back on a Prius kick so I may get real intolerable in here as I learn the CO2 poundage stats and start bragging about my green cred. (If I get bad vibes about doing the deal, I'll have to bring up unintended acceleration). 
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 05, 2009 2:29 pm) No siree..............knew it wasn't personal so no offence taken. I don't take responsibility for our loony champage-socialist government any more than they take responsibility for me. Come May 2010 they will, hopefully, be history and we can - perhaps - get on with repairing the huge financial damage they've inflicted upon us. All this, of course, presupposes that the EU will allow us to, as our soul has been sold to Brussels. Sorry, totally off topic but at least I didn't get into a rant. Maybe the tablets are working.  Just fuelled up the Volvo with diesel, (ULSD, the only flavour)................£1.079 per litre. Working that into $/USG would just depress you guys & gals so I won't. Suffice to say that the vast majority of the cost was Duty, (tax), and VAT, (more tax). On-topic, it's a hand up from me, 'cos I don't understand the Fuel : CO2 ratio either. 
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 12, 2009 11:06 pm) "Climate scientists normally are wary of associating daily weather events to longer term climate change, but new research does just that by showing that daily record high temperatures across the continental U.S. occurred twice as often as record lows over the last decade." LOL ! They don't mind associating the 5% of weather events that support their theory of global warming....It's the 95% that don't support their theory that they object to. |
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