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Re: here's something most of us could agree on [steve_] by gagrice
Nov 03, 2009 (6:49 am)
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I did not see anything on the Porsche in the site. Just a WRX with SnowTrax. Notice they took it in the shop after a short run. The SnowTrax are a maintenance nightmare.
 
wanna good laugh?
 
Gore Denies He Is Profiting From Global Warming
 
Big Liar
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Re: here's something most of us could agree on [gagrice] by steve_ HOST
Nov 03, 2009 (7:33 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 03, 2009 6:49 am)

Looks like I grabbed the parent link instead of the story link. Trying again:
 
Save the Planet: Buy a Porsche
 
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Re: here's something most of us could agree on [steve_] by gagrice
Nov 03, 2009 (7:47 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 03, 2009 7:33 am)

It is one way to have your cake and eat it too. Just lacks any appeal to me.
 
We have a friend that her mini van died and she cannot afford another vehicle. She has been riding the bus to her little shop in Alpine. She absolutely hates it. The body odors of the homeless she can live with. The fellow throwing up in the aisle of the bus was horrible. Not to mention the people coughing, sneezing and spreading germs all over everyone. I am so thankful I have never been put into a situation like that. Public transit is just an extension of the Urban Cesspools we have created in this country. Driving across America, we saw millions of acres that are uninhabited and unused. We need to spread out more. Tear down the big cities and send people out in the country.
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Re: here's something most of us could agree on [gagrice] by oldfarmer50
Nov 03, 2009 (9:13 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 03, 2009 7:47 am)

"...Tear down the big cities and send people out in the country..."
 
Careful there. That's what Pol Pot did in Cambodia.
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Re: here's something most of us could agree on [gagrice] by larsb
Nov 03, 2009 (9:18 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 03, 2009 7:47 am)

Careful there again, Drama King.
 
You are again reflecting an old stereotype of public transit that apparently will not die.
 
The VAST majority of riders do NOT experience what is happening to your friend.
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Re: here's something most of us could agree on [larsb] by oldfarmer50
Nov 03, 2009 (9:26 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Nov 03, 2009 9:18 am)

"...The VAST majority of riders do NOT experience what is happening to your friend..."
 
I've described the racism and mental health issues my children experienced riding the bus so it's not all flowers and cupcakes as you would wish to believe.
 
A local car dealer has taken advantage of this perception in his car ads. He touts the benefit of getting away from the "germs and the creepy guy" on the bus as a reason to buy his cars.
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Re: here's something most of us could agree on [oldfarmer50] by larsb
Nov 03, 2009 (9:35 am)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Nov 03, 2009 9:26 am)

Public transit it not all roses and cupcakes, indeed.
 
But neither is it only homeless, stinky vomiting disease-ridden fleabags.
 
Both are irrational exaggerations.
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Re: here's something most of us could agree on [larsb] by kernick
Nov 03, 2009 (9:38 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Nov 03, 2009 9:18 am)

It's not just public transportation larsb. I can walk down any street or into almost any public building, and I can tell you that if you took 20 people at random, I would not want to be in a bus or subway-car with at least one of them, for some reason.
 
Even in the 1st-class section of an airplane I bet there's people I don't want to share air with, or listen to.
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Re: here's something most of us could agree on [gagrice] by kernick
Nov 03, 2009 (9:49 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 03, 2009 6:49 am)

Yeah I saw part of an interview this morning on ABC, and they mentioned that he was a billionaire now? It's just amazing huh how he knew which energy-companies to invest in, while almost anyone else on the planet hasn't done so well.
 
Why we wouldn't suspect that there's any political influence here do we? Just another great example of legalized-stealing, which makes any organized-crime ventures pale in comparision.
 
If there's any Robin Hoods out there, feel free to go after the Gore-type people of the world. If I'm on the jury, you'll get a "Not-guilty" from me.
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Re: here's something most of us could agree on [kernick] by larsb
Nov 03, 2009 (9:53 am)
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Replying to: kernick (Nov 03, 2009 9:38 am)

That's correct.
 
Riders of public transit, depending on the location, are merely a reflection of a slice of society.
 
In some cities in the USA, that MIGHT mean that the majority are people without sufficient means to drive themselves.
 
In Europe, many middle-class people take public transportation and even members of the upper-echelon pay grades do so.
 
In the USA, in some cases, it's merely people who take the bus for convenience.
Or because they were caught drunk driving and lost their license for a while.
Or who want to ride their bikes to work and because of the distance, must take a bus part of the way.
Or who are college students whose parents decided a car in a city with sufficient public transportation is a waste of money.
Or a high school kid whose parents are unable to drive them to school but the bus/train/subway works fine.
Or a member of a two-job/one-car family whose week it is to NOT have the car.
 
Public transportation is not merely for the destitute and the down-trodden. People who try to make it seem that way are putting a black eye on something which does not deserve said black eye.

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