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Re: Why GW is Losing Supporters [oldfarmer50] by steve_ HOST
Nov 01, 2009 (5:36 pm)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Nov 01, 2009 3:58 pm)

Ah, the Cuyahoga River. Yeah, was just finishing high school around that time (the '69 fire, not the '52 one). Lot of milestones over the years - TMI, the Exxon Valdez, Bhopal, the last free flowing stretch of the Little TN river....
 
A lot has changed. But a lot hasn't. You probably haven't heard squat about this one, that's been going on since mid-August and just got worse:
 
Australia oil well catches fire (BBC)
 
"Engineers have been struggling for more than 10 weeks to stop the leak which is spewing out natural gas and oil at an estimated 400 barrels a day." The spill is up to 9.7 million gallons now (the Exxon Valdez dumped about 10.8 million gallons).
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Re: What... [oldfarmer50] by gagrice
Nov 01, 2009 (5:47 pm)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Nov 01, 2009 4:17 pm)

"Park & Ride" system.
 
Oh the best place to pick the vehicle of your choice to steal. One of our large trolley lots is now the number one choice of car thieves. They have a patrol that seems to always be at the other end when a car gets stolen. It used to be theater lots were the ideal choice until the trolley system made it so easy. The perp rides the trolley till he sees a car he has a buyer for. Gets off at that stop. Pops a punch through the door to open and hot wires past the security system. And away he goes. Less than a minute and he is headed down the road in your car. If you want to be green and car pool or ride the transit. Use an old beater to get to the parking lot.
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Re: Why GW is Losing Supporters [steve_] by houdini1
Nov 01, 2009 (5:50 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 01, 2009 5:36 pm)

No problem, we can easily offset that by just breathing slower.
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Would it help to suck on... by iluvmysephia1
Nov 01, 2009 (8:26 pm)
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menthol cough drops? And then breathe out? I mean with the Global Warming. Or would it be a false cooling effect and really just add to the onslaught of super-heated warming trends that are absolutely inundating us.
 
Kind of makes you want to jump in a naturally heated thermal pool outside somewhere, don't it? Isn't it a ball to falsely edumacate ourselves in the name of socialized automotive-related education?
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Gary - Slam Diego making good use of Alt energy by larsb
Nov 02, 2009 (8:30 am)
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Maybe this means your expensive electricity might get cheaper?
 
San Diego Solar Projects Get $154 Million Funding
 
A total number of 192 solar installation projects in the public sector of San Diego were awarded with $154 million in allocations through the Clean Renewable Energy Bonds (CREBs) program. Seven hundred thirty-nine projects were given $800 million in allocation by the IRS in all. The funding given to San Diego will increase the city's solar energy production by 40 percent as it looks to install 20 megawatts more worth of solar arrays. This new development, secured by a San Diego stakeholders' coalition led by CleanTECH San Diego, is expected to provide hundreds of new green jobs.
 
    "The $154 million for renewable energy projects marks a major milestone for our region and will make a significant economic, environmental, and social impact. This clearly demonstrates the successful collaboration within the various business sectors of our region," said Lisa Bicker, CEO of CleanTECH San Diego.
 
The 192 projects covered by the allocation of funds came from different public sectors of San Diego like schools, municipalities and a water district. The larger part of the project count - 111 of them, particularly - is for the San Diego Unified School District that will get a share of $74 million. UC San Diego, on the other hand, will accept $15 million for 15 renewable energy projects led by four students of the university. As a whole, the state of California has won $640 million of allocations out of the $800 million awarded nationwide.
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Re: Gary - Slam Diego making good use of Alt energy [larsb] by kernick
Nov 02, 2009 (12:24 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (Nov 02, 2009 8:30 am)

20 MW doesn't sound like a lot for that number of projects and money. That's enough energy to run about 12,000 typical hair-dryers.
 
I think we'd get a much better return on our money, reducing consumption, and freeing jobs for U.S. citizens, by rounding up illegal immigrants and shipping them back home.
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Re: Gary - Slam Diego making good use of Alt energy [kernick] by steve_ HOST
Nov 02, 2009 (12:43 pm)
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Replying to: kernick (Nov 02, 2009 12:24 pm)

That's a bit of a passé argument since in this economy, you're seeing US citizens becoming ex pats in seek of work.
 
There is a Plan B in the works. One small snag is swapping sunny days for haze.
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Re: Gary - Slam Diego making good use of Alt energy [larsb] by gagrice
Nov 02, 2009 (1:56 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (Nov 02, 2009 8:30 am)

All PORK for selected companies. Nothing to help the little guys electric bills. Just checking again on feasibility of Solar Panels for my home. SDG&E does not let you sell excess back to them. Best option is to put in batteries and get off the grid. You cannot win tied to the utilities. It would be wise with Cap N Trade looming in our future.
 
That welfare is for public works. Not commercial or residential. So how will it help us at all. It will likely make our rates higher as SDG&E loses customers. You keep forgetting that solar and wind is still more expensive to produce than gas or coal fired generators.
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Pays to have friends in high places by gagrice
Nov 02, 2009 (7:57 pm)
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The company, Silver Spring Networks, produces hardware and software to make the electricity grid more efficient. It came to Mr. Gore’s firm, Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers, one of Silicon Valley’s top venture capital providers, looking for $75 million to expand its partnerships with utilities seeking to install millions of so-called smart meters in homes and businesses.
 
Mr. Gore and his partners decided to back the company, and in gratitude Silver Spring retained him and John Doerr, another Kleiner Perkins partner, as unpaid corporate advisers.
 
The deal appeared to pay off in a big way last week, when the Energy Department announced $3.4 billion in smart grid grants. Of the total, more than $560 million went to utilities with which Silver Spring has contracts. Kleiner Perkins and its partners, including Mr. Gore, could recoup their investment many times over in coming years.

 
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/03/business/energy-environment/03gore.html
 
We put wireless meter readers in the Arctic villages back in the late 1990s. The last I heard they were not being used as it put a local native out of a job reading the meters. Just what is needed companies taking away more jobs and giving $millions to the elitist like Al Gore.

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