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Re: No so fast "Global Cooling" proponents [houdini1] by larsb
Oct 27, 2009 (1:55 pm)
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Replying to: houdini1 (Oct 27, 2009 1:48 pm)

Which part?
 
These were just two spreadsheets given to a couple of math guys who were told "analyze this using statistical analysis and tell us what you find."
 
Can't get more unbiased than that.
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Re: No so fast "Global Cooling" proponents [larsb] by kernick
Oct 27, 2009 (2:38 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (Oct 27, 2009 6:19 am)

After their analysis of the raw data, none of the experts reported a decline in temperatures over time.
 
The burden of proof is not to prove that the Earth is cooling; the burden of proof is that the Earth is warming; AND that the warming is man-made. I don't see where this link of yours has the statisticians quoted on either.
 
I think the article is intentionally ignoring that what was statistically analyzed is not the answer to the question of man-made GHG's and global-warming.
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Why we should not trust the data on CC or GW by gagrice
Oct 28, 2009 (7:02 am)
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Can you find the official climate thermometer in this picture?
 

 
Read On
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Re: Why we should not trust the data on CC or GW [gagrice] by larsb
Oct 28, 2009 (7:12 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Oct 28, 2009 7:02 am)

One point of data among thousands does not invalidate the data.
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Re: Why we should not trust the data on CC or GW [larsb] by gagrice
Oct 28, 2009 (7:25 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Oct 28, 2009 7:12 am)

That is the point. Iit is a large percentage of the stations that are in question. Any in cities are suspect because of the false heat readings. This is just one example in thousands that are being questioned. You can believe your government is honest. I don't believe them for a minute. Everything they do has a tax agenda attached.
 
Why would they change from GW to CC if the weather data did not make them look stupid? So warmer or cooler it is all Man's fault. I ain't buying into the lies. Looks like the UN is backing down on their big climate summit plans also.
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Re: Why we should not trust the data on CC or GW [gagrice] by oldfarmer50
Oct 28, 2009 (7:43 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Oct 28, 2009 7:02 am)

"...Can you find the official climate thermometer.."
 
OOH OOH OOH I can find it...that's it right there hanging over the burning tires. Gee, CO2 levels and soot are off the chart too. The end must be near for the polar bear.
 
Send money.
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Re: Why we should not trust the data on CC or GW [gagrice] by steve_ HOST
Oct 28, 2009 (8:18 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Oct 28, 2009 7:02 am)

I enjoyed nosing around Watt's site a couple of weeks ago when you or someone linked to it. It's fun to read his posts and then, when you think the guy is Attila the Hun or something, you find out that he has a 10KW solar array on his house, a bunch of CFL’s and timer switches most of his lights.
 
And he drives an electric car.
 
He's sort of the Anti-Gore.
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Re: Why we should not trust the data on CC or GW [larsb] by kernick
Oct 28, 2009 (12:49 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (Oct 28, 2009 7:12 am)

One point of data among thousands does not invalidate the data.
 
No, but if that one point passes the standard for what is acceptable as an environment where an official reading can be taken, it does say the standards are awful, and that there well might be many more like that. If you go in a restaurant and see 1 cockroach, you don't suspect there are more and other problems?
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Why GW is Losing Supporters by kernick
Oct 29, 2009 (1:00 pm)
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I guess the next poll is going to show even lower percentages that GW is real and a problem.
 
http://www.usatoday.com/weather/storms/winter/2009-10-29-autumn-snowstorm_N.htm
 
Major snowstorms in the middle of the Fall season are certainly not an indicator that there is any warming, and that if there is warming, it is definitely NEEDED. The day when it is too warm to snow where I live, is the day I'll be happy. I would be thrilled if it never got below 32F in the Northeast (sorry skiiers and snowmobilers). A warmup to a nice 65-95F climate would be great.
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Re: Why GW is Losing Supporters [kernick] by larsb
Oct 29, 2009 (1:38 pm)
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Replying to: kernick (Oct 29, 2009 1:00 pm)

From your link
 
"DENVER — A slow-moving autumn storm"
 
Just a storm. Not climate change-related.

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