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Are automobiles a major cause of global warming?

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Re: steve... [iluvmysephia1] by steve_ HOST
Oct 23, 2009 (7:18 pm)
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Oct 23, 2009 6:41 pm)

I guess you saw the profit that Warren has made on paper with that investment?
 
Chinese Automaker Investment Pays Off for Buffett (AutoObserver)
 
I still don't know how all those batteries are going to get recharged without making the sky look like a bumper car arena with all the power lines gridding everything up. Until I can charge one off the grid, I guess I'm not going to get too thrilled about eCars.
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steve... by iluvmysephia1
Oct 23, 2009 (7:41 pm)
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Nissan is one Company that is committed to the U.S. market in allaying U.S. carbuyers fears in buying all-electric cars. Phoenix-Tucson is one market that is going to get a whole bunch of charging stations for all-electric carbuyers to use that buy any brand of all-electric car. Truth that be. Very cool and breezy truth that be.
 
There will be an outlet for you. Pardon the possible pun. I am very interested in the 2010 BYD e6 but I'm one of those that will wait and watch how others are doing with these all-electric cars before I buy.
 
My wife and I have put 45,000 miles on our 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS since March of 2007. But those are 45,000 gently added-on miles, friends. This car could last us another 8 years...at least.
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Re: steve... [iluvmysephia1] by steve_ HOST
Oct 23, 2009 (7:48 pm)
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Oct 23, 2009 7:41 pm)

24 city tour coming soon, including your neck of the woods:
 
Nissan Schedules Leaf EV National Tour, With Test Drive Opportunities (Green Car Advisor)
 

 
(you're giving me great segues for posting site content - keep it up. )
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OK then... by iluvmysephia1
Oct 23, 2009 (8:01 pm)
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Dec.30th-Jan.5th for a close-up look of the new Nissan Leaf. Phoenix-Tucson would be my ticket, then. Might want to gander a look during those dates, just for a fun-at-a-distance-type-of-a-thing.
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It gets better every day with Cap n Trade by gagrice
Oct 26, 2009 (5:00 pm)
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Who in their right mind would go for Cap n Trade if it means giving up a Cheeseburger now and then? Or in Obama's case $100 per lb steaks? This bunch of Loonie Toons get more ridiculous by the minute. No wonder he is distancing himself by not speaking on CC at that meeting in Copenhagen.
 
People will need to turn vegetarian if the world is to conquer climate change, according to a leading authority on global warming.
 
In an interview with The Times, Lord Stern of Brentford said: “Meat is a wasteful use of water and creates a lot of greenhouse gases. It puts enormous pressure on the world’s resources. A vegetarian diet is better.”
 
Direct emissions of methane from cows and pigs is a significant source of greenhouse gases. Methane is 23 times more powerful than carbon dioxide as a global warming gas.
 
Lord Stern, the author of the influential 2006 Stern Review on the cost of tackling global warming, said that a successful deal at the Climate Change Conference in Copenhagen in December would lead to soaring costs for meat and other foods that generate large quantities of greenhouse gases.

 
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6891362.ece
 
They could cut GHG a lot by denying oxygen to every politician and their lackey scientists.
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No so fast "Global Cooling" proponents by larsb
Oct 27, 2009 (6:19 am)
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Myth of Cooling Globe shattered by AP-sponsored ‘blind’ test
 
Researchers claiming to have found the Earth could be entering a cooling cycle may have gotten their facts wrong, according to a recent independent study.
 
The Associated Press commissioned a study from independent statistics professors to analyze figures without being told what they represented.
 
University of South Carolina statistics professor John Grego, along with David Peterson, retired from Duke University, Mack Shelley, director of public policy and administration at Iowa State University and Edward Melnick from New York University were asked to look at sets of numbers pertaining to climate trends.
 
Each professor was given two spreadsheets. One contained annual global temperature changes from 1880 to 2009 obtained from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.
 
The second spreadsheet contained annual temperature changes from 1979-2009 taken from scientists at the University of Alabama.
 
After their analysis of the raw data, none of the experts reported a decline in temperatures over time.
 
In an October 9 BBC News story, climate correspondent Paul Hudson noted that the warmest year on record was not in 2008 or 2007, but in 1998.
 
The story goes on to state that no climate increase has been measured over the past 11 years, although emissions of carbon dioxide continue to rise.
 
The BBC story cited experts who claim that although the world has gone through decades of rapid warmth during the 20th Century, the earth operates on natural climate cycles, which man has no control over.
 
Additionally, experts have long debated whether the spikes in warming have been attributed to an increase in the Sun’s energy and that warming causes a rise in carbon dioxide levels, rather than the other way around.
 
"If you look at the data and sort of cherry-pick a micro-trend within a bigger trend, that technique is particularly suspect," Grego told the AP.
 
"The last 10 years are the warmest 10-year period of the modern record," said NOAA climate monitoring chief Deke Arndt. "Even if you analyze the trend during that 10 years, the trend is actually positive, which means warming."
 
The independent analysts found that there was no significant drop in climate (temperatures) in the past 10 years.

 
So the confusion continues......
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Re: No so fast "Global Cooling" proponents [larsb] by steve_ HOST
Oct 27, 2009 (6:46 am)
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So the confusion continues......
 
Isn't that exactly what the opponents to global warming intended?
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Re: No so fast "Global Cooling" proponents [larsb] by gagrice
Oct 27, 2009 (6:46 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Oct 27, 2009 6:19 am)

So the consensus is the warmest year in the last few decades was 1998. The last 11 years have been cooler in spite of the fact that CO2 levels have risen. That to me is conclusive evidence that CO2 is NOT the culprit. If CO2 increases are the cause of GW we should see a warming not flat or cooling. I think the scientists on the UN and US dole are scrambling to keep the money flowing. If CC becomes the non issue that it should be they would all be in the unemployment lines with the rest of the folks.
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Re: No so fast "Global Cooling" proponents [larsb] by alltorque
Oct 27, 2009 (7:43 am)
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Replying to: larsb (Oct 27, 2009 6:19 am)

In an October 9 BBC News story, climate correspondent Paul Hudson noted that the warmest year on record was not in 2008 or 2007, but in 1998.
 
Let's not get carried away here. Paul Hudson is actually the BBC Weatherman for Lincolnshire and East Yorkshire..........an area that you could lose in most US States. To call him a "Climate Consultant" is stretching credibility more than just a little. Even the local news anchor man takes him to task most evenings over his far from accurate daily forecasts.
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Re: No so fast "Global Cooling" proponents [larsb] by houdini1
Oct 27, 2009 (1:48 pm)
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Replying to: larsb (Oct 27, 2009 6:19 am)

"POPPYCOCK"....

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