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Replying to: avalon02wh (Jul 17, 2009 7:52 am)  best a strawman. OIl went from an interesting $147 per barrell to mid 40's, all within a very compressed time frame. It happened when demand was cut back only 3%. Now a cut back of 3% in the context of 104% growth per year is still a 1% growth rate !!!!!!??? Bloomberg market hack indicates a barrel of oil is $63.25. So in that sense, they have for multiple decades followed this strategy and the % of oil importation has grown to 70%. (or so they say) Indeed the price of oil is higher than its ever been (historically high) and guess what? Oil importation is 70% (even higher) . Indeed European importation is higher than that and they have even HIGHER at the pump fuel prices !!!! You can repeat this short sighted argument untill we start to import upwards of 90% of the oil and then...what would you have then accomplished!!?? So very simply, if you want to increase oil importation, follow the present strategy (ever increasing prices and taxation) . Believe it or not.... it works!!!
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Replying to: avalon02wh (Jul 17, 2009 7:52 am) Lynn Helms, director of the state Department of Mineral Resources, said recent production results from 103 newly tapped wells in the Three Forks-Sanish formation show many that are “as good or better” than some in the Bakken, which lies two miles under the surface in western North Dakota and holds billions of barrels of oil. |
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 17, 2009 1:38 pm)
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"While we've seen some algae bloom from time to time, we really haven't seen something quite like this." The color, in particular, didn't make sense, he said. You might expect to see green or reddish algae but not this black, viscous gunk. Whitledge, with the university, said one possible explanation is that the algae has partially decomposed into a darker hue. He looks forward to the university examining the sample too, to identify exactly what kind of algae it is. It's worth noting that Alaska Natives in the region reportedly hadn't seen anything like it before, he said. But asked if the blob's surprise appearance could be connected to global warming, Whitledge hesitated to draw a link. "The water's actually very cold this year compared to other years," he said. Why is the ice in the Arctic melting if this is a cold year? Or is the ice melting just a story made up by "the cult"?
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SAN DIEGO -- A new independent analysis by a nonprofit environmental group finds San Diego has the most solar roofs and greatest solar- power capacity in place statewide. Environment California ranks San Diego No. 1 in its California's Solar Cities report released earlier this month, according to The San Diego Union-Tribune. Ten years ago, San Diego wasn't even among the top 10 solar cities in the state. Today, San Diego has 2,262 solar roofs that together can generate 19.4 megawatts of electricity, the Union-Tribune reported. "San Diego has just basically woken up to its potential," said author Bernadette Del Chiaro. Los Angeles ranked second this year with 1,388 solar roofs, while San Francisco was third with 1,350 solar roofs. Del Chiaro and San Diego city officials told the Union-Tribune three things contribute to San Diego's solar success: lots of sunshine, City Hall's fast-track permitting for solar projects and the Kearny Mesa headquarters of the California Center for Sustainable Energy. The center promotes solar projects through government rebates and other means. One such program is set to launch this fall, designed to allow San Diego homeowners to obtain 20-year loans for installing solar projects. The loans will be repaid through their property tax bills. http://www.10news.com/news/20072199/detail.html |
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jul 17, 2009 7:55 am) http://www.nrdc.org/air/transportation/images/aoilpolicy2_2.gif How about the graph on this page??? http://www.peakoil.nl/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/consumption_production.png Consumption is the issue. We will never drill our way out of this. ANRW only has about 16 billion barrels of oil. The USA will use it up in 5 years. The good news about this is that CO2 emissions can only go so high.
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 17, 2009 1:38 pm) Curious, why do you think the oil in the U.S. is the best? Funny you should mention Lynn Helms. I have seen his presentations on energy. I have also had the opportunity to talk with him. We are both in the North Dakota Geological Society. http://ndgeosociety.tripod.com/ In one presentation, Lynn made the comment that there is no "easy button". I am familiar with the work being done on the Three Forks-Sanish Formation. One of the issues we face here is the ability to ship the oil out. The pipelines are full. New pipelines are being added. It will take some time before they can get full potential from the fields. There was also an issue of being able to put ND oil on the pipeline going from Canada (oil sands) to the gulf refineries. http://www.downstreamtoday.com/news/article.aspx?a_id=14765 It is also important to keep in mind that ND is only producing about 200,000 barrels a day. We will never be a large producer (1 million plus barrels a day).
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Replying to: avalon02wh (Jul 18, 2009 5:10 am) I know you know better than that. The Prudhoe field was estimated at 9 billion barrels in 1970. Oil started flowing in 1977 from that field. It is still flowing 32 years later. ANWR would be providing a steady flow of oil for decades. It is physically impossible to get 16 billion barrels from the Arctic to the market in 5 years. Your first graph does not take into consideration the fact that we have gone down by 3% over the last year. That would put an entirely different slant on that fictitious graph. Sadly it is just that kind of computer analysis and graphs that has perpetuated the whole business of man made GW/CC. And it is that, a business with $Billions at stake. PS If we could transport one million barrels per day from ANWR it would take close to 50 years to use up that oil.
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Replying to: avalon02wh (Jul 18, 2009 5:32 am) |
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jul 17, 2009 1:48 pm) "Arctic fantasies need reality check" http://www.canada.com/edmontonjournal/news/business/story.html?id=bfda2108-bf06-- 4a53-9c45-20b5eb36a34a&k=63243 |
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