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It seems that the CC consensus is crumbling before our eyes. The bullies in the cult are being forced to debate the science and falling short on facts to back up their outlandish claims of gloom and doom. "Last weekend we could understand better why Wong [Australian Senator Penny Wong, Minister for Climate Change and Water] is no longer keen on data on surface and atmospheric warming. NASA's Aqua satellite - one of the four main measurements of world temperature - found June had dropped back to just .001 degrees above the average for the past 30 years." Read the whole piece.  http://www.climatescienceinternational.org/
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MEDIA RELEASE - INDIA JUSTIFIED TO IGNORE CLIMATE ALARMISM India right to put development ahead of appeasing climate activists, says scientist Important Elements of India’s Climate Change Plan Wins Support from Canada The recently announced National Action Plan for Climate Change indicates a new sign of independence among Indian political class to recognise domestic energy priorities over international hysteria on climate change. With the approach of India’s Independence Day, this view has been expressed by expatriate Indian climate scientist, Dr. Madhav L. Khandekar, now living near Toronto, Canada. Read whole release as it appeared in India. South African scientist, Dr. Kelvin Kemm, writes in South Africa's Engineering News:"This Indian report was music to my ears. I have constantly said that developing countries cannot afford to let their school children do homework at night by candle light rather than by electric light, in an effort to save on electricity production, on the basis of the flimsy evidence presented in favour of man-induced climate change." Read Dr. Kemm's whole piece. Dr. Kemm has an MSc and PhD (Nuclear Physics) and is a Business Strategy Consultant and Nuclear Power policy developer and CEO, Stratek Business Strategy Consultants, Pretoria, South Africa. New Zealand not convinced by flawed science as well. CLIMATE CHANGE: AUSSIE SENATOR STEVE FIELDING SAYS AL GORE IS WRONG Posted 14 July 2009 "THIS is the chart climate change sceptic Family First Senator Steve Fielding hopes will convince environmental campaigner Al Gore that global warming is not real.Senator Fielding is trying to score a one-on-one meeting with Mr Gore, who is in Australia promoting several environmental causes, to prove to him that climate change sceptics are right. http://nzclimatescience.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=493&Itemid- =1
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 14, 2009 5:36 am)   (they should turn them into environmental tourist traps. ( "ECO TOUR", no pun intended)
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 14, 2009 5:46 am) The nearest auto comparison I can make is getting a felony ticket for going 25 mph when light speed is 186,000 miles per sec. For those that need an apples to apples comparison that is 25 mph vs 671,000,000 miles per hour.
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jul 14, 2009 6:24 am) |
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 13, 2009 7:15 pm) That is certainly one approach - wait to see what happens and deal with it as it arrives. Personally, I would prefer we understand the issue first. We may want the option to try to mitigate some of the impacts. "Why all of a sudden do we need to cope with a theoretical problem that is maybe 100 years from now or maybe never." If you notice from my previous posts I am not advocating too many solutions at this point. The actions I would like to see are rather low key and very long term (decades). I do not advocate shutting down coal power plants, nor do I recommend any quick changes to the auto fleet. I am actually encouraged by the options we now have and will have in the transportation sector (hybrids, diesels, electric cars, powerful yet fuel efficient 4 cylinder cars...). I am also encouraged by other developments like this: http://www.psc.state.nd.us/consinfo/GraphicsJuly2008/WindGraphicFinal7-15-08.pdf- You do realize that by calling climate change a theory you are admitting it is a fact - just like the theory of gravity.  http://www.bringyou.to/apologetics/p67.htm
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Replying to: avalon02wh (Jul 15, 2009 6:47 pm) 
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"Researchers Find that CO2 Forcing Alone Doesn’t Explain Magnitude of Ancient Global Warming Episode" http://www.greencarcongress.com/2009/07/petm-20090715.html#more Translation: more study is needed and it could get a lot worse.. "New Molecule Could Lead to New CO2 Capture Methods" http://www.greencarcongress.com/2009/07/tossell-20090715.html#more Will the cure be worse than the disease? "DOE Takes Another Step Toward $2.4B FutureGen Project " http://www.greencarcongress.com/2009/07/doe-nepa-20090715.html#more I am glad to see the project is moving forward. I also thought one of the posters had an interesting comment: "...but as a resident of Alaska who is acutely aware of the accelerating effects of pronounced warming in the arctic (e.g. arctic ocean losing its ice pack at an alarming rate, permafrost thawing, coastal villages washing away, spruce forests destroyed by insects now able to winter over, etc. etc.) your promise of a coming ice age is laughable."
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 15, 2009 8:37 pm) The comic was funny because it actually has things reversed. When I ride my bike I usually watch the faces of the drivers. The number of stressed drivers out there is actually rather disturbing. While on the bike I'm in casual mode. A move over into the slow lane comment is much more likely from the hummer driver. FYI - riding a bike is much more fun, especially on those nice sunny days. I would also recommend checking out an electric bike if you have hills or a long distance to work. 
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Replying to: avalon02wh (Jul 16, 2009 5:50 am) As much as man would like to make the earth a static entity, they are not going to do it. The earth is always changing, and there is little we can do to stop it. Heck we cannot even stop the wind, let alone the climate 100 years from now. I was walking through our lovely Balboa Park last Tuesday. There was trash lying in the bushes everywhere. We should start by eliminating people that pollute on purpose. When we get that down we can go after those that do it as a consequence of surviving. We start with the most illusive of pollution and don't bother with the mundane. |
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