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Replying to: fintail (Jul 13, 2009 9:15 am) I'm not saying it could work, given all the cooperation problems. But if it COULD work, it's not a bad idea. As far as "One World Government": about as likely as aliens taking over the planet. |
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Replying to: larsb (Jul 13, 2009 9:16 am) Globalized economics is the first step towards one world government. The EU is a small scale experiment in one world government - and there now some nations there are panicking and changing their structures to ward off a loss of sovereignty caused by recent EU power grabs. It will be attempted more in the future
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Replying to: fintail (Jul 13, 2009 9:22 am) 
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Replying to: larsb (Jul 13, 2009 9:16 am) Cap n Trade will run even more businesses out of the US into the arms of China. Al Gore does not give a hoot. He has a mansion, jet and 100' house boat with a $100 million for fuel. He is not trying to run a business with a bunch of leeches telling him his toilets are not up to code or he has to completely revamp his factory to meet the new tougher regulations. Sounds good unless you were one of the people working there when he says screw it, I cannot afford to do business in the USA. That is just one aspect of why the whole climate bill is bad for America. If you have a global governing body. They can dictate anything they like which makes it a one World Government. We have Friends in Greece in the Government. They are trying to rid themselves of the Euro and all the crap the EU is trying to pull.
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 13, 2009 10:46 am)  I'll see your Kyoto and raise you Montreal. (I'll believe one world government when I see California simply put together a budget).
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Replying to: steve_ (Jul 13, 2009 12:27 pm) Actually it is a model.... OVERSPEND OVERSPEND OVERSPEND...under deliver.... |
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Replying to: steve_ (Jul 13, 2009 12:27 pm) Same goes for all these CC ideas. In the USA they will be attacking the tax payers standard of living and I don't think they will keep voting someone in that wants to take away their cars and comfortable homes. If people think their civil liberties are trounced on by the Patriot Act, they are in for one rude awakening if Cap N Trade gets a foot hold. We are already seeing the effects of CA mandates on power. Higher utility bills with mandatory cut backs in usage. Usage over 354 KWH per month are doubled then over 460 KWH per month are quadrupled in price. According to the SDG&E bill I am holding in my hand, I am using 40.4% less this year than last. That is only because it is so much cooler this year than last. Yet the CC Wonks won't accept they are full of you know what with their hockey stick data. I know what I would do with that hockey stick if I had Al Gore here. |
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"Most people don't appreciate that the computer on your desk is contributing to global warming and that if its electricity comes from a coal power plant it produces as much C02 as a sports utility vehicle," said Bill St. Arnaud of Canarie, a Canada-based internet development organization. "Some studies estimate the internet will be producing 20 percent of the world's greenhouse gases in a decade. That is clearly the wrong direction. That is clearly unsustainable," added St. Arnaud. http://edition.cnn.com/2009/TECH/science/07/10/green.internet.CO2/index.html Let me get this straight. It would be less polluting for me to be cruising around the back country in my SUV than sitting here blogging on this computer? I love when one of these egghead types tell us what is "unsustainable". Well who gives up their computer first? Or do we go door to door pulling people out of their homes and caning them as an example to the rest? When will these CC cult types come to the realization that people emit CO2 in everything they do. Unless they want mass genocide it is going to increase more and more and more. If you believe the hype. Move to higher ground. Here is a question. How many trees do we save by getting our news from the Internet vs the newspaper? Which produces more GHG processing paper and printing or reading from a computer screen? |
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Replying to: gagrice (Jul 12, 2009 7:16 pm) http://www.wnd.com/ Have you actually gone to there web site? The headlines are the most mind boggling dribble I have ever seen. You don't want to talk about global warming. You want to talk ideology. Global Warming is real. Humans are making their mark. What is the percent impact, 25%, 50%, 75%???? The percent is important because it will help us determine how much money we spend on reducing things like CO2 emissions or how much we use to deal with the impacts of climate change like drought, heat and ocean level increases. I do not see all the countries coming together on this issue unless there is a disaster. Peak resources or the inability to supply enough primary energy to everyone will likely hit us sooner then some of the worst climate change impacts. When the far left looks at us in the middle they lump us with the right. When the far right looks at us they lump us with the left. Both groups should be kicked out of the sandbox. 
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Replying to: avalon02wh (Jul 13, 2009 6:51 pm) Humans are making their mark. What is the percent impact, 25%, 50%, 75%???? The percent is important because it will help us determine how much money we spend on reducing things like CO2 emissions or how much we use to deal with the impacts of climate change like drought, heat and ocean level increases. What is your point? Now the Internet is going to double our GHG emissions in a decade. Since the beginning of man, we have coped with the problems as they hit us. Why all of a sudden do we need to cope with a theoretical problem that is maybe 100 years from now or maybe never. It is a scam and you my friend have bought into it. Build on a rock high above the masses. That is what I have done. Look out for your self. You are never going to convince 7 billion people to give up what they have worked all their lives to attain. And that is exactly what CnT is all about. Taking from the middle class and giving to the elite that run this global economy. Can't take from the poor they have already beat them down to nothing. PS So you are saying those 31,000 scientific voices are all paid dissenters? I don't buy it. You are trying to claim that the group of scientists that you are part of are more honest than the 9000+ PHDs that do not buy into the MM/CC scam.
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